11-18-2009 09:04 PM
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Is folding QQ to a 4 bet the standard play now? | |
11-18-2009 10:41 PM
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Kill the fishes | |
11-18-2009 11:49 PM
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Need more informations. | |
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11-18-2009 11:57 PM
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11-19-2009 02:09 AM
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Here's my take on 4betting QQ (would love some criticism here): | |
11-19-2009 11:30 AM
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Cliff notes: If you're not willing to stack off you probably shouldn't 3-bet unless Villain has a huge calling range against your 3-bet or you're trying to isolate a fish or something along those lines. | |
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11-19-2009 12:52 PM
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Thanks this is all very helpful information. | |
11-19-2009 01:28 PM
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11-19-2009 02:12 PM
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@ surviva316: A* stuff in this post. | |
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11-19-2009 03:51 PM
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11-19-2009 05:43 PM
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11-19-2009 06:19 PM
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11-19-2009 06:28 PM
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Pelion I should have made myself more clear. If it is correct to be folding QQ to a 3bet preflop, villains range is going to be too narrow to 4bet bluff, thus 4betting 72o as a bluff when you can't continue with a hand as strong as QQ will definately be -EV because he isn't folding enough to make it profitable. In a situation where villains range is wide enough to bluff, choosing QQ to 4bet/fold is worse than choosing 72o because of the reasons stated in my post (spoonitnow sums it up nicely). | |
11-19-2009 06:36 PM
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11-19-2009 06:53 PM
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11-19-2009 07:04 PM
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11-19-2009 07:28 PM
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11-19-2009 07:40 PM
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I think 50nl FR on Stars is a good example of having a player pool where many regulars are folding >80% of the time to 3bets while only 4bet/folding OOP, and then calling more when IP. So in short, they are responding to 3bets differently IP as opposed to being OOP. So depending on whether or not a particular villain is IP or OOP, we're going to have to adjust our 3bet range according to how they react to our 3bets. | |