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Originally Posted by Chopper
i think K8s is as reasonable as 89s. 44 is kind of weakly played, but what are you gonna do? i may have tossed in more on the turn, though, too.
i pay off here 100% of the time. i dont get surprised to see a boat, but the way he sounds like he plays, i about half expect 8X, too.
however, after this hand, and the previous hand, and your read of his play (not his spliff-taking tell), i would start to give hella credit to any big raise he puts in a future pot. that said, sometimes you are just going to get coolered.
make sure you dont miss value on him in thinner spots. he sounds like he calls along, too. when he doesnt raise, you should have him a lot more than he slowplays you.
I wish I had bet the turn, he said he was c/raising me if I had. I do give the guy a lot of credit when he bets hard, but while he might be nitty, he's far from stupid. He saw me check the turn, so he knows I'm not massively strong, he'll have me on 77, TT+, 8x, 9x or open ender, possibly picking up flush draw... which of course is why he's crazy to check it to me on the turn. If he's holding K8, he's going to think that's ahead on the river, he's only going to worry about A8. It was a tough spot. I took a minute or so to call, I couldn't believe he would play a stronger hand so weak. He surprised me for sure.
He doesn't call along weak, like gutshot, or two overs, unless the price is right. If he's calling along, he's usually hit the flop, and if he's raising, he's usually strong. But he is capable of bluffing, I just haven't yet determined how far he'll go with a bluff.
Same game, around thrid hand in, I pulled off the mother of all bluffs with 23o. Got Russ to finally put down his T off a T55 flop at the river after firing all three streets, c/raising the flop. I'd left myself with a tenth of my stack by the river bet, which unnerved him, as last time I did that I had the goods. I showed my bluff and tightened the hell up with a 50% improvement on my stack. Cheeky.
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