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  1. #1
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    I'd love some commentary on my thoughts for this hand. I don't normally play rush but received $20 worth of tickets so decided to give it a go.

    I've played 25 hands against the villain who is 13/8. I noticed a 60% steal blind (3 from 5) so decided his range must be pretty wide on the button and therefore his bet could just be a steal. I re-raise because I've had 65% fold for the 500 or so hands I've played rush. It seems people are wary of the SB raising because you can simply fold out & move on vs. BB who has to stick around until someone bets.

    Full Tilt - $0.05 NL RUSH - Holdem - 9 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

    LP: $5.87
    CO: $30.54
    BTN: $12.73
    SB: $2.48
    Hero (BB): $7.15
    UTG: $2.00
    UTG+1: $12.92
    MP: $7.13
    MP+1: $5.00

    SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

    Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has J 5

    fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.17, fold, Hero raises to $0.40, BTN calls $0.23

    His flat call makes me think it's most likely a broadway but could be small pp. I didn't get much more information other than it was good enough to continue not good enough to raise

    Flop: ($0.82, 2 players) 7 T 5
    Hero bets $0.25, BTN raises to $1.57, Hero calls $1.32

    I've hit the flop (poorly) but thinking he was pot stealing I wanted to try to show some strength. I had initiative from my PF raise.

    His raise was a concern - very strong. I think the call here was an error.

    Turn: ($3.96, 2 players) 5
    Hero checks, BTN bets $10.76 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.18 and is all-in

    I got lucky with the 5 plain & simple. I do have a tough choice but. He could have a set making his full house but it also puts 2 flush draws on the cards & I've showed some strength. I took this bet as, "I've got the best hand now but am worried about a flush, go away". Because of the size of the bet I discounted the full house as I'm thinking why would you want to stop a flush? Surely you'd value bet it. I think he may be on a high pair and my trips are probably good hence the call.

    River: ($14.32, 2 players) A


    In hindsight, it's likely that my attempt to defend getting called was as far as I should have taken this hand, it failed & I should have moved on.

    I'd appreciate thoughts on this.
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    3bet J5o? whats up with that? ..i appreciate that its likely a steal, but that doesnt mean J5 is good.. it means a wider range than your normal tight one is. J5 is garbage, and you're going to get in trouble out of position.
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    3bet is okay with ATC to determine tendencies of your opponent in rush. After that you played like crap, bet size on flop is too small, and his on the other hand is way too big. I would just fold here...

    But since you called...
    His stack size is over 200bb so I guess he is doing something right. I put him on a big pocket pair that is willing to get it all-in AA-QQ. Set of tens or sevens also very possible. Somehow i doubt that he would be that agressive with a flush draw, but it is possible.

    Verdict: he made full house on a river.
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    Uhh...

    Pre-flop isn't a vacuum, and the chance that he'll call your small 3bet in position is not worth the 3.5bb you're trying to steal here.

    The flop is pretty wet, and he probably had suited connectors to start with. 89, 68 etc. and maybe two pair, also any 2 diamonds. Ax/Kx of diamonds is very possible here, even though his 3-bet was pretty strong for a flush draw. He may have had pocket pairs and saw you as a fish with probably AKo or something and *tried* to induce another raise from him with your almost minraise, so called along hoping to hit his set. pocket 7's or T's also very possible here. The fact that you called such a strong 3bet with bottom pair on a wet board is just headasplode. This is rush poker at its lowest limit, and I can assure you it is a clusterfuck of premium hand camping, so please be aware next time that you can fold when your steal doesn't work.
    Last edited by dudeman; 05-17-2011 at 04:45 AM.
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    pick a different hand to 3b bluff with. bet the flop bigger, fold to flop raise as played c/c is obv fine.

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    General guideline is to 3b bluff with the top of your normal folding range for the given situation. Another good idea is to 3b bluff with hands that have potential such as suited connectors, or hands that hold a blocker, like Ax or Kx.

    As played, bet more on the flop ($0.55 or so seems adequate)
    As played, don't call the flop raise.
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    Thanks to all for the valuable feedback. A very poor hand on my part but very good advice on how to 3B bluff for the future.. and when to not do it.
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