3 bet squeeze ??

is this fine?

original raiser was like 40/27 caller 20/14 but only over like 17 hands so not to useful, haven't seen anything to note from either.

obv fold if raised on flop?

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NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
SB ($27.55)
BB ($45.11)
UTG ($15.48)
UTG+1 ($27.33)
CO ($25)
Hero ($24.65)

Dealt to Hero J T

fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.75, CO calls $0.75, Hero raises to $3, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $2.25, CO calls $2.25

FLOP ($9.35) 2 J 9

UTG+1 checks, CO checks, [color=red]Hero bets $7,

just call pre, initial raiser is rarely folding and why are we turning JTs into a bluff?

flop bet is about 50% too big

what should my 3 bet bluff range be? i thought JT is a pretty good hand to bluff with here?

on flop bet 3.50 into 9.35 pot? i don't think i would ever bet that small with an over pair or set

I would have no 3b bluff range with a 40/27 opening UTG+1, and a wider 3b value range.

I'd suggest 4.50 on the flop and not have the slightest concern for balancing your sizing here.

JTs is easily strong enough to flat here on the button multiway. the best hands to three-bet bluff are the hands which are the top of your folding range. for more info, suss out these threads

http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ay-187190.html

http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...he-163171.html

cool, thanks

Originally Posted by d0zer

just call pre, initial raiser is rarely folding and why are we turning JTs into a bluff?

flop bet is about 50% too big

This 100%

JTs is way too good of a hand to call with IP to add it to our bluffing range which should be pretty much nothing anyway given that our 3bets should be almost entirely for value.

Originally Posted by d0zer

just call pre, initial raiser is rarely folding and why are we turning JTs into a bluff?

flop bet is about 50% too big

I think it kind of depends on if we feel comfortable getting TP in here (I would vs these players probably). I think betting anywhere from 6-6.75 is valid with the intention of just shoving most turns if called. Then again it's been a while since I played 6max so I don't know what unknown reg's stack off ranges would be in 3bet pots here.

Originally Posted by Donachello

JTs is way too good of a hand to call with IP to add it to our bluffing range which should be pretty much nothing anyway given that our 3bets should be almost entirely for value.

^agree

initial raiser is loooose, he calls you every time, and probably calls flop cbets with A high. flat this multiway, the lagg fish will pay you off when you hit most of the time. preflop isnt the time to put money in because you're probably marginally behind his range and have no fold equity.

am i the only one who doesn't mind isoing the fish here? flop bet should be about $5.5, call if the fish jams, probably fold if the reg jams as the as it's 9c2cJh instead of like 9d2cJc. prolly b/c it off on that flop.