25NL A6s vs Fish

Villain is 33/8/3.0 over 25 hands


0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
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5 Players
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Stacks:
UTG Hero ($21)
CO PokerPsix ($25.25)
BTN white_shahin ($24.65)
SB YDMA ($25)
BB IN2YOURMIND ($20.88)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 5 players) Hero is UTG
Hero raises to $0.85, 1 fold, white_shahin calls $0.85, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.05, 2 players)
Hero checks, white_shahin bets $1, Hero calls $1

Turn: ($4.05, 2 players)
Hero checks, white_shahin bets $1, Hero calls $1

River: ($6.05, 2 players)
Hero ($18.15)?



I think PF is standard but if anyone has problems with it there was a also a 44/19/1.0 fish in the BB and I'm trying to play as many pots vs him while IP as possible.

I don't think there's many options on the flop. Leading looks stronger and probably folds hands that might bet the flop or call bets on later streets. His bet on the turn looks soso weak but I don't think we can raise for value here so calling looks best to me.

My main question here is whether or not we can lead the river? By this point I think theres almost no hands he can have that we're behind and many of them are going to check behind on the river. Does that make this an auto bet and if so what is your sizing?

Rough range for him when we get to river is A8-A5, A8s-A2s, JJ-TT, 88-66, T9, 98, J9s

Pre is totally fine.

c/c this flop is also fine if this guys the type to fire all his random garbage here since we wont be getting 3 streets. If he's uber passive and uber stationy, I'd prolly just start betting, with only 25 hands and no real reads c/c seems good.

As played on turn blah blah blah wrong stuff pls look at 2nd post. On the river, we can b/f for 1/2 pot or so, getting called the times he rivers a Q or has been leading with 9x or TT JJ, A5 A2. He may well aimlessly fire small again with these hands aswell as a bunch of retarded air so c/c again has merits too. I like leading $3.50 though since when he does bet again it'll prolly only be $1 so we wont get much value from his air.

Actually wtf I prolly would raise this turn. He jus so rarely has a better hand here and can have turned a fd or pair + gutter 9xetc and yeah like I said if we call we don't get like a whole bunch of value by c/c river vs his garbage cos he'll jus min b/f it.

25nl is obv way out of my league but I'd like to take a shot at higher level thinking.

I agree with not leading out on the flop as we're prolly only folding worse and getting better to call. Check/calling the turn seems ok except for his wtf small 1/4 pot bet. @ 2 or 5nl I'd see this as weakness and take a raise/fold line.

The river is where the level 3 thinking comes in. What does he think about you? If you lead out, repping AQ, KJhh, KThh or maybe some sets are you gonna get his bigger aces or two pair to fold? If so then I'd say bet/folding is prolly the right choice.

Obv this isn't working at 5nl because nobodys thinking past their own 2 cards. Are they thinking any harder at 25?

Lol, it took so long to come up with that brick o' crap that carroters posted twice.

This guy's a moran, look at his stats, the stakes are irrelevant, a moran is a moran. A better hand is never ever folding the river, if we lead out it's stricly for value from [9x Qx A2 A5]

Originally Posted by supahaole

Lol, it took so long to come up with that brick o' crap that carroters posted twice.

In a mind changing, hyper, fast typing mood atm.

Agree that he is never folding a better hand on the river.

supahaole you shouldn't just generalize all 25nl players into 1 category. Some are better than the people lower but clearly this guy is a passive donk who most likely calls way too many bets.

On reconsideration, I agree with you guys that we can probably raise turn for value. He's def calling a turn raise with worse hands. For the sizing of that raise I think I like 3ish (maybe 3.5 but we don't want him to fold)

When we raise turn and he calls its because he doesn't have very many hands in his range that are ahead of us. Do you 1/2 pot or 1/3 pot the river after making the turn raise? Say we raise to 3 and he calls. Pot is now 10.05 on river I think I like a 3.25 bet here or something similar. A bet small enough where he cant fold his 9x or A2.