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    70/32 - hadnt actually mixed with him much.

    It took me 3-4 seconds to bet and he almost insta C/R

    Poker Stars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG ($24.32)
    UTG+1 ($13.85)
    Hero (MP1) ($11.10)
    MP2 ($4.03)
    MP3 ($10)
    CO ($10)
    Button ($9.01)
    SB ($10)
    BB ($13.51)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q, A
    2 folds, Hero bets $0.40, 3 folds, Button calls $0.40, 2 folds

    Flop: ($0.95) J, Q, 5 (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.66, Button calls $0.66

    Turn: ($2.27) A (2 players)
    Hero bets $1.39, Button raises $7.95 (All-In), Hero ????



    Villain 16/10 - korean (1.1k sample)
    High W$WSF - but lowish W$@sd
    Low fold to 3bet

    The only note i have is that he got his stack from me after calling my squeeze vs an UTG+1 raise with 33 (after the intial raisor had folded) to flop a set ($1.60 pre into the pot OOP)

    I called because the 3 villains behind were squeezeing a lot hence I call intending to fight back against squeezing...

    Add to that the UTG limper was a 5/5 limping UTG - i thought we might get limp reraised here.

    Poker Stars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    BB ($10.33)
    UTG ($11)
    UTG+1 ($4.87)
    MP1 ($20.49)
    MP2 ($21)
    Hero (CO) ($10.15)
    Button ($11.35)
    SB ($6.87)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with J, J
    UTG calls $0.10, 2 folds, MP2 bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, Button calls $0.30, 1 fold, BB calls $0.20, UTG calls $0.20

    Flop: ($1.55) 2, K, J (5 players)
    BB checks, UTG checks, MP2 bets $0.74, Hero calls $0.74, Button calls $0.74, 2 folds

    Turn: ($3.77) 10 (3 players)
    MP2 bets $2.88, Hero ????
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    H1 fold I guess h2 call I guess, meh what's with posting hard shit. I think I'd raise flop in h2 cos life is easier with a lower spr. Feel the cooler coming as we speaks.
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    lol call hand 1 gg him if he has 55 KT

    lol not raising the flop in hand 1 is an abso egregious mistake. obviously call as played as there is literally no other option

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    I'd fold H1 and call is obviously standard in H2. As bikes said, not raising flop with JJJ on KJx two-tone is pretty baddish.
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    H1 - Call.

    H2 - Raise flop is a better play than calling imo.
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    Flop: ($1.55) 2, K, J (5 players)
    BB checks, UTG checks, MP2 bets $0.74, Hero calls $0.74...
    In case bikes didn't emphasise it enough, this is fucking horrible. 5 to a flop, 2nd nuts, wet board... when are you raising a set if you're not here?

    H1 I'd be stuck. I'd prob fold, depends if villain has done something like this already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    In case bikes didn't emphasise it enough, this is fucking horrible. 5 to a flop, 2nd nuts, wet board... when are you raising a set if you're not here?

    H1 I'd be stuck. I'd prob fold, depends if villain has done something like this already.
    Hand 2 was a misclick on the flop - my intention was to raise - i guess shit happens playing 24 tables - hence the reason for posting it now as im not sure what is most effective given pot/stack ratio is never like this in typical situations i get into.

    Interesting its about 60/40 fold on the AQ hand - i honestly thought i get as much stick for folding there as i did for misclicking the call in hand 2
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    I think the AQ hand is a much tougher spot. Folding might be the worse option, but it's going to be close enough that folding isn't horrible imo. But the JJ hand, we lose soooooo much value when we call, and calling allows everyone to see the turn at a good price. Calling looks to me equally as horrible as folding lol. If you're 24tabling and misclick, fair enough, but personally I'd fuck the other tables and let them time out so I can concentrate my efforts into playing this hand better. If you're calling when you should be raising, you might be playing too many tables. I hope your increased winrate due to 24 tables is making up for the lost value due to fuck ups. If not, reassess how many tables you can handle.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
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    I might be getting confused between posters, but I swear this isn't the first time you've misclicked in a hand you post - maybe you really do play too many tables?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I think the AQ hand is a much tougher spot. Folding might be the worse option, but it's going to be close enough that folding isn't horrible imo. But the JJ hand, we lose soooooo much value when we call, and calling allows everyone to see the turn at a good price. Calling looks to me equally as horrible as folding lol. If you're 24tabling and misclick, fair enough, but personally I'd fuck the other tables and let them time out so I can concentrate my efforts into playing this hand better. If you're calling when you should be raising, you might be playing too many tables. I hope your increased winrate due to 24 tables is making up for the lost value due to fuck ups. If not, reassess how many tables you can handle.
    By my own admittance I am not the best player playing poker - so volume makes up for that. Plus i tend to put in 3-500k hands over 3-4 months then take a break (trying not to do that this time) Fwiw, Ive beaten everything upto 400nl FR, only 100nl 6 max, so im ok but not like some of the much better players around here (and a self-confessed nit) so sure there will be mistakes I make - i wouldnt post a 'Got C/R on the turn with TP' as ive seen enough hands like that to know how to play versus various opponents.

    Often my posts are only there because I did something wrong in a certain spot, so its then the decision making when i havent played the hand in a 'typical' fashion - ie the misclick in the JJ hand.
    It happens playing that many tables - if i misclick twice in 30k hands then ill take that (as long as its not folding AA pre!)
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    if i misclick twice in 30k hands then ill take that
    Yeah fair enough. I can't handle 24 tables for shit, I tried once during a milestone week, I timed out regularly, inc nuts KKK on flop vs an all in, which went on to tilt me to fuck and prompted me to half my tables. I suck playing more than 4 tables tbh, I lose so much by playing bad that I start playing losing poker x8 or whatever, instead of winning poker x4.

    If you're in single figures in regards mistakes per 30k hands, then obv ignore my comments regarding too many tables.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
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  13. #13
    H1 is a snap call, and it's not even close. We need equity somewhere in the high 30s to call, and we have 40% equity against A5+.

    Once you consider how wide a 70/32's range is for making it to the turn and consider that his line (flatting the flop only to shove 5x's on an overcard) makes it look like he's either trying to get us to fold better or to price us out, then it's really not even close. (Not to mention, once you discount hands like JJ+). Call and see J7cc-type stuff a lot here.

    EDIT: To be exact, we need 36% equity to call, and we have almost 39% equity against A5+.
    Last edited by surviva316; 08-27-2012 at 04:53 PM.
  14. #14
    Hand 1: easy call vs this fool
    Hand 2: I'll beat the dead horse and say raise flop; I fold turn as played.

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