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[2NL] KK 4bet called pre. Hate the flop.

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    Default [2NL] KK 4bet called pre. Hate the flop.

    Villain is 37/26/6 through 46 hands. Hadn't seen him go to a showdown so not much more info I am afraid.

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    MP ($0.91)
    CO ($3.87)
    Button ($1.89)
    Hero (SB) ($2.11)
    BB ($2.05)
    UTG ($2.40)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with K, K
    2 folds, CO bets $0.07, Button raises to $0.22, Hero raises to $0.70, 2 folds, Button calls $0.48

    Flop: ($1.49) A, 5, Q (2 players)
    [color=#CC3333]Hero ???

    Hate this flop. If he just called with AK/QQ I am beat. The only legitimate hand I feel he could have that I beat is JJ? Can I c/f this flop?

    Also, I should have just shoved right? Instead of that stupid 4bet sizing???
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    If you're gonna 4bet the sizing is fine, shoving this at 2nl is also fine though and the line i would have taken, gonna get so many calls from JJ QQ AK and worse depending on the villain.
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    Both of the above. Can't see a problem with 4bet shoving at these stakes since JJ QQ AK pretty much always calls and TT AQ does often too, but this sizing is fine too, flop is obv horrible so c/f.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seven-deuce View Post
    If you're gonna 4bet the sizing is fine, shoving this at 2nl is also fine though and the line i would have taken, gonna get so many calls from JJ QQ AK and worse depending on the villain.
    I referred to the "stupid 4 bet sizing" just because I was annoyed with myself for not shoving and putting myself in a spot like this one.

    AP, can you find a fold here?
  6. #6
    What does AP mean? After preflop? lol idk.

    c/f is fine i think, with not much info/reads whats he really calling a 4bet with? Yeah c/f is the line i'd take here assuming hes not stacking off terribly light which we dont know w/o reads. If he has TT JJ or a random JQ here he's probably as scared of the flop as you are and it could check through plus you have backdoor flush outs. If he takes a stab on the river and bets small id probably call if the odds are good and you can instantly note his hole cards from this hand. But yeah in future it's perfectly fine to just ship this pre.
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    pre is ok, don't stress it too much.
    flop is meh, 34-26 is the type who could bluff TT if checked to, but it's not that likely. A c-bet wouldn't really for value, more to avoid a difficult spot if villain bets, and a cbet for that reason doesn't work here. Thing is, you've got less than pot behind so anything other than check-fold is probably spew.
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    ap = as played
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    ongies gonna ong

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