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    Default Stud 7 Hi-Lo hand

    Seat 7 is new to table. Seat 1 bets a lot, likes his high hands. Seems a little spazzy really.

    weaktight | Hand | 7d3c4c5s - $0.25/$0.50 Ante $0.05 Stud Hi/Lo
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    I would wait to see what the A does on 3rd but tbh I haven't spent tons of time thinking about 3rd. other than that seems good
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    This is probably a fold on third.
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    raise 4th?


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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    This is probably a fold on third.
    As in bring in then fold to any raise, or fold to the raise as played? Seat 1 may only call something like 1 in 5 times he plays, he'd prefer to bet/raise and based on what he's showed down his raise doesn't mean what it might for other players.

    Generally most of the table (and most microstakes stud players in general) seem to play for high and treat low as a bonus, so I've taken to playing pretty much any hand seven and under and raise to discourage those who might just call a complete to see what happens.



    I did think about raising 4th TLR. If it had checked to me I'd have bet, but I'm still not too sure with drawing hands how fast to play them. Tips and advice appreciated .
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    Sorry, as is often the case I misread the HH. Didn't realize you were the BI. I'd call, too. But in general I don't want to get involved with 7-4-3 with better possible low draws out. 743 suited, yeah, 74A, sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjsaust View Post
    As in bring in then fold to any raise, or fold to the raise as played? Seat 1 may only call something like 1 in 5 times he plays, he'd prefer to bet/raise and based on what he's showed down his raise doesn't mean what it might for other players.
    I dont think it is correct to fold as the bringin

    Quote Originally Posted by bjsaust View Post
    Generally most of the table (and most microstakes stud players in general) seem to play for high and treat low as a bonus, so I've taken to playing pretty much any hand seven and under and raise to discourage those who might just call a complete to see what happens.
    Auto raising any hand 7 or below is not always correct, basically you want to play low hands that have potential to scoop (ALL, 3 low str, 3 low flush etc)

    Quote Originally Posted by bjsaust View Post
    I did think about raising 4th TLR. If it had checked to me I'd have bet, but I'm still not too sure with drawing hands how fast to play them. Tips and advice appreciated .
    Your hand right now is too good to fold but very vulnerable, continue playing 3 way with the two others showing low hands is very problematic, if you raise 4th there is a decent chance seat 7 will fold, he has been very passive and the face cards of both you and seat 1 are better then his 7 low, if he folds and you get the pot to HU vs seat 1 you have gained three major things
    1. You have a lot more control over the size of the pot, you can limit the betting to one bet per round, with your hand it is a great
    2. If he is indeed going low and does not have a str8 you will often be able to win the high part of the pot with a relatively weak hand if the hand goes to showdown - for example if you pair your 5 or 7
    3. You have a much better chance of bluffing if he catches bad

    The main risk in raising is that seat 7 will call or raise, so you will be in a 3 way pot which is much larger (thus making it even harder for you or other players to fold later on)

    but all and all I think raising 4th is much better then calling given the way seat 7 has played so far


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    Quote Originally Posted by TLR View Post
    I dont think it is correct to fold as the bringin


    Auto raising any hand 7 or below is not always correct, basically you want to play low hands that have potential to scoop (ALL, 3 low str, 3 low flush etc)
    I guess I started off similar to that (based on hand selection in the sticky) but it seems like I hardly play any hands that way. Is that right to play so tight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjsaust View Post
    I guess I started off similar to that (based on hand selection in the sticky) but it seems like I hardly play any hands that way. Is that right to play so tight?
    As a general rule, yes, although a lot is situation depedant
    Generally speaking 'razz' hands (3 unconnected cards 8 and below) are not great, especially if it contains an 8, however if the action is multiway with only high cards showing then it is worth to play them
    3 cards with str8 potential are also playable, especially if they are low (2-4-6, 2-5-6 etc...) it is very important then to have the gapper cards alive

    Hands like low pair + low card can be very playable or unplayable depending on your position, previous action and exposed cards

    As far as I remember the ante-smallbet ratio in stars is relatively high (ante is very low compared to smallbet size) so it is OK to play tight


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    Feels like when I started learning NL at times. Fold a heap, get a playable starting hand, whiff completely on 4th and fold. Do that for an hour and some guy who plays 70% of hands and chases to 7th triples their stack while you're folding.

    Still there are also the sessions where you hit and beat a lot of 2nd best hands who kept chasing to lose anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjsaust View Post
    Feels like when I started learning NL at times. Fold a heap, get a playable starting hand, whiff completely on 4th and fold. Do that for an hour and some guy who plays 70% of hands and chases to 7th triples their stack while you're folding.

    Still there are also the sessions where you hit and beat a lot of 2nd best hands who kept chasing to lose anyway.
    One of the things to realize about this game is that playing for half a pot is a high risk low reward ratio

    There are some valid cases for playing for half pot, mainly
    1. You have a strong high hand that can play against a single opponent going low without an Ace showing
    2. You have a low hand in a multiway pot with other players going for high
    Note that the reverse (having a high hand with multiple low hands) is a recipe for disaster usually, with multiple low hands the chance of someone hitting aces up or better by 7th is just to big if you have hands like 2 pair


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    [deleted] this was really more a bad beat thinly disguised.
    Last edited by bjsaust; 07-31-2012 at 03:32 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TLR View Post
    Note that the reverse (having a high hand with multiple low hands) is a recipe for disaster usually, with multiple low hands the chance of someone hitting aces up or better by 7th is just to big if you have hands like 2 pair
    Yeah, having a second best hand can be a recipe for disaster. Med-low'ish 2P hands have also cost me a fair bit (where maybe I was going low and end up calling 5th, 6th and 7th with something like 65464nothing.
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    When you get to later streets HU just call unless their board is super scary.
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