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    Default Some live hands - did I make any mistakes?

    Had a dirty night, hoping to get some feedback on some big hands I was involved in.

    Game is 1/3 turbo. I bought in for 150 (max is 200) and had to rebuy for another 200 after losing a cooler. I've slowly built my stack up to almost 1000 so am up a fair bit.
    My image is TAG and I'm getting more respect than most pre raisers so was using that to my advantage to steal blinds quite a bit.

    I also have some pretty strong reads on 3 of the players I have position on, and have discovered significant tells on 2 of then so am feeling great at this stage and decide to keep playing.

    Hand 1:

    Qc9c in BB
    CO who had around 400 raises to 10 (standardish for this table) and button and SB call, so I call.

    Flop : 9d Qh Jh

    SB checks, I raise to half pot and CO raises me to pot.
    CO was a pretty poor player, loose and had doubled twice by calling/pushing AI on flop with flush draws against odds and when clearly dominated and catching both times.
    At this stage he really could have anything but I have this feeling he has a monster draw (flush + straight) rather than a made hand. He's definitely calling if I push if he has any draw.

    Play?

    Hand 2:

    I'm on the button with QQ. Same guy raises from MP to 15, one caller. I pop it to 50, he calls.

    He has about 400, I'm at around 840 at this stage .

    Flop comes 54J rainbow and he pushes.
    I called and he turns 53s and catches a straight. Anyone fold to his push? AJ is most definitely in his range here as is AK/AQ.

    Hand 3:

    On the button with 4s5s. UTG raises to 15. She's lose pre but bets super hard with any hand TPTK or better and tends to call to SD with TPGK or better. Almost whole table calls so I call 15 in a 75 pot.

    Flop comes As 5d Ts giving me pair & FD.

    UTG bets 45, a calling station calls and it gets to be. She has 175 behind, I'm at 400.
    Pot is now 120ish and I call.

    Turn bricks, she shoves and calling station puts in his remaining 90ish making pot around 350. Fold correct here or have I got enough of a hand to call?

    Hand 4:

    Same players as hand 3, about 1 orbit later. I'm on button again with 5s6s. The same calling station from before limps from mp as do a few others and I raise to 18. Villain in bb calls, calling station calls, rest fold.

    Flop is 4h 7s Qh . Bb donks for 40 and station calls. Pot is now 140 ish. I call.

    Turn Kh

    Bb bets 65, station folds. Play? (I folded this here and she tells me she had 2 pair)

    Hand 5:

    Im SB with TT. Villain from last two hands raises 15, folded to me and I call. Bb calls.

    Flop is 539 rainbow, BB donk bets pot, utg folds. No reads on BB as he just sat down, I have him well and truly covered. Play?

    I ended the night going from almost 700 profit at once stage to 200 loss. Lost 3 big all ins to sick draws (including that 53 and 2 flush chasers) so have been doubting a few of my hands during the tail end of the session. Would appreciate any comments. I'm playing again in a few days and want to clean any or plays up before I go back
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    He's definitely calling if I push if he has any draw.
    so i think you mostly you are answering your own questions.

    QQ -- if he can jam AQ high then snap call

    65s hand seems pretty standard fold on turn.

    TT hand hard to say without knowing stack sizes.
    Playing big pots at small stakes.
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    TT hand villain had around $150 on the flop so about $100 left after his bet.
    I had around $350 left at this stage

    What about the Q9 hand? I'm not sure if right play here is to call and jam turn on a brick?
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    IDK how you can fold an overpair for 50 BBs vs. an unknown
    Playing big pots at small stakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    IDK how you can fold an overpair for 50 BBs vs. an unknown
    Ok cool, that's what I thought. I'm probably just doubting my plays because I'm a bit tilty/results orientated. Need some time to go over the hands again in my head and cool down
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    First of all 1/2 with capped buy in will probably have rake that is too high for anyone to beat more than barely, especially in Australia which has some of the highest rake games in the world as far as I am aware. As for the hands:


    1) He could have J9, AA, KK, loads of flush draws. If you bet 20 into 40 and he raised you to pot, that would be 100, which only leaves 290 for the turn if you call. I'd probably just jam this, you have 4 outs against the nuts, you only really hate to run into set or QJ. I could see folding if you think he's more likely to call with KK or a draw, cause then you're in really bad shape. Up to your reads, man. I don't like flatting because you're only really happy on 4 cards and the pot is already big.


    2) Please don't post bad beat hands. If he's the type of player that jams 53 here for 300 into 100, then you'd obviously be happy to put in thousands of dollars with this hand on the flop vs his range.


    3) Turn is definitely a call for the price here, but there's a good case for you to just jam these guys on the flop, while your hand has the most equity. It could be best even if you're certain UTG doesn't fold Ax, because if you call, he will force you to stack off with lower equity when the turn blanks off.


    4) Raising this pre is a judgement call, if you think they never limp/fold (most live players rarely do), I like overlimping. Your pot size is screwed up here on the flop, you said you raised to 18 and got 2 calls, so thats a pot of 72, if you face a bet of of 40 you'll be getting just under 3:1 on the call. I still definitely call with oesd+bfd. On the turn, clear fold.


    5) What's his stack size? Definitely start off by calling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renton View Post
    First of all 1/2 with capped buy in will probably have rake that is too high for anyone to beat more than barely, especially in Australia which has some of the highest rake games in the world as far as I am aware. As for the hands:


    1) He could have J9, AA, KK, loads of flush draws. If you bet 20 into 40 and he raised you to pot, that would be 100, which only leaves 290 for the turn if you call. I'd probably just jam this, you have 4 outs against the nuts, you only really hate to run into set or QJ. I could see folding if you think he's more likely to call with KK or a draw, cause then you're in really bad shape. Up to your reads, man. I don't like flatting because you're only really happy on 4 cards and the pot is already big.


    2) Please don't post bad beat hands. If he's the type of player that jams 53 here for 300 into 100, then you'd obviously be happy to put in thousands of dollars with this hand on the flop vs his range.


    3) Turn is definitely a call for the price here, but there's a good case for you to just jam these guys on the flop, while your hand has the most equity. It could be best even if you're certain UTG doesn't fold Ax, because if you call, he will force you to stack off with lower equity when the turn blanks off.


    4) Raising this pre is a judgement call, if you think they never limp/fold (most live players rarely do), I like overlimping. Your pot size is screwed up here on the flop, you said you raised to 18 and got 2 calls, so thats a pot of 72, if you face a bet of of 40 you'll be getting just under 3:1 on the call. I still definitely call with oesd+bfd. On the turn, clear fold.


    5) What's his stack size? Definitely start off by calling.
    Cheers for the feedback, very valuable.

    Yeh the rake is pretty high. The 1/3 games are capped at $200 buy in, 2/4 at $400 - they're usually the levels I play when I go in. It's rare not to see people that bust buy in multiple times so there's usually a decent amount of money on the table.

    1) I did think flatting just leaves me with the same decision on the turn, and I was sure he would call a push with any flush or straight draw (and definitely with an overpair). Ended up folding which felt really weak but I ran some ranges into pokerstove and even very best case scenario for what I thought his range was I was only 55%.

    2) sorry, shouldn't have posted the final hand. I guess the question was before I knew what he turned over is calling such a huge overbet EV+ if your read on your opponent is loose/ mostly passive. Its not an uncommon situation at these games - if they all ship it with crap like that I'm obviously very happy but I can't quite work out how often they're holding junk and how often the goods given how loose the preflop calls usually are.

    3) is it still worth jamming the flop with a known calling station in the hand? He's probably got my pair covered and would call with 2nd pair or better on this board

    5) He had $150 on the flop before the bet, so $100 behind after. Pot was around $100 after he bet. If I call there's $150 in the pot on the turn. Given those sizes better to shove that flop?

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