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Originally Posted by dsaxton
Originally Posted by TLR
Originally Posted by dsaxton
Just call 3rd street when the other guy reraises. You're at best only a small favorite (see simulations below), and you don't want to define your downcards. Better is to call and put the thought in the other guy's head that you might have a bad card in the hole.
Check-raising 5th is horrendous, and so is check-calling. Just jam every street once you make your wheel.
Razz (7-card Stud A-5 Low): 500000 sampled outcomes
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
4s 5c Ah 296667 59.33 202678 40.54 655 0.13 0.594
As 8s 7s 202678 40.54 296667 59.33 655 0.13 0.406
Razz (7-card Stud A-5 Low): 500000 sampled outcomes
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
4s 5c Ah 252938 50.59 246052 49.21 1010 0.20 0.507
As 6s 2s 246052 49.21 252938 50.59 1010 0.20 0.493
Razz (7-card Stud A-5 Low): 500000 sampled outcomes
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
4s 5c Ah 240516 48.10 255368 51.07 4116 0.82 0.485
As 5s 2s 255368 51.07 240516 48.10 4116 0.82 0.515
You are ignoring the 3rd player (seat 6) both in the simulation and in the decision on 3rd, why is that ?
Nevermind. I forgot you don't take advice.
If I did not want advice I would not have posted the hand, if my response came out as offensive I am sorry, that was not my intention at all.
In all the hand simulations (and I appreciate the time you took to do them), you did not consider the 3rd player who was in the pot, and I was wandering if it should not have factored into our decision of raising vs calling at 3rd street. with only one opponent in the pot I agree with your assessment that it is better to call then to raise and conceal the strength of our hand, but the 3rd player in the pot makes the decision more complex, on one hand raising may get us to play the pot heads up (which I think is better for us then playing 3 way) but on the other hand if both of them come along it builts a pot that is much harder to get away from if it develops into mid strength hand
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