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    Default QQ - What to do the flop?

    So I'm sitting with about $340 at a 2/5 NL game, 68BB. One limper before me, I raise QQ 2 off the BTN to $25 (5BB).

    Read on the Villain: He's a middle aged (just turned 30?), likely experienced home-game player deciding to play some $2/5. I only remember seeing him play one hand, where had tanked for a long time against an aggro maniac who shoved all-in against his 3bet, where he eventually decided to call with AQo. (the aggro maniac/fish made a huge over-bet shove over his $75 to $400, $325 more to call in his stack).

    Now this is the annoying part. CO calls, BTN calls. SB calls. BB calls. original limper calls. 6 way to the flop!

    Flop comes 424, two spades on the board.

    It checks around to me. The pot is $150. I decide with some draws out there, and 6 people in the pot, I don't really want a cascade calling effect here. I bet $100.

    It folds around to the SB, who thinks for maybe 5 seconds before min-raising to $200. It folds around back to me. $100 more to call.

    Hero?
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    Quote Originally Posted by altruist View Post
    So I'm sitting with about $340 at a 2/5 NL game, 68BB. One limper before me, I raise QQ 2 off the BTN to $25 (5BB).

    Read on the Villain: He's a middle aged (just turned 30?), likely experienced home-game player deciding to play some $2/5. I only remember seeing him play one hand, where had tanked for a long time against an aggro maniac who shoved all-in against his 3bet, where he eventually decided to call with AQo. (the aggro maniac/fish made a huge over-bet shove over his $75 to $400, $325 more to call in his stack).

    Now this is the annoying part. CO calls, BTN calls. SB calls. BB calls. original limper calls. 6 way to the flop!

    Flop comes 424, two spades on the board.

    It checks around to me. The pot is $150. I decide with some draws out there, and 6 people in the pot, I don't really want a cascade calling effect here. I bet $100.

    It folds around to the SB, who thinks for maybe 5 seconds before min-raising to $200. It folds around back to me. $100 more to call.

    Hero?

    First of all, in what universe is someone wh just turned 30 considered middle aged.

    Second, shove on the turn. This is a guy who calls huge 3-bets with AQ. All of the pocket pairs, semibluffs, and A4 are in his range. So, you're likely ahead.

    There is no move you can make on a later street that doesn't commit you to the pot. Also, there are only two cards in the deck that can improve your hand.

    With no bets you can make, a hand that is likely good and unlikely to improve, get your value now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by altruist View Post

    Read on the Villain: He's a middle aged (just turned 30?),

    30 is the new 45
    Playing big pots at small stakes.
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    under-bet the flop.
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    yeah, depends on oponoment sometimes show sometimes not.
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    so what vs which oponoment do you show?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eugmac View Post
    so what vs which oponoment do you show?
    fucking depends on oponoment man
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    30 is def middle aged

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