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  1. #76
    @madmojomonkey - I wasn't able to post the link...

    @eberetta1 - thanks for the game!
  2. #77
    Here is how it went down between sshefri and eberetta1...

    http://www.flopturnriver.com/open-fa...table.php?7623
    It takes 2 years to learn to talk, but a lifetime to learn when to shut up.
  3. #78
    http://www.flopturnriver.com/open-fa...table.php?7662

    MeGrimlock gets really lucky v. Ducktollinggrinder by (77 points).
  4. #79
    *Also ...noticed something that might need to be amended.

    If we play an "odd" number of games (35) ...then one player is going to have the advantage of being dealer first.
    I would always invite my opponent into the room I set up in order to have this advantage.

    It might be a trivial thing ...but I think we should make it an "even" set of hands to avoid this issue.

    Perhaps making it (36) will be a quick fix since only 4 matches have been played.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeGrimlock View Post
    *Also ...noticed something that might need to be amended.

    If we play an "odd" number of games (35) ...then one player is going to have the advantage of being dealer first.
    I would always invite my opponent into the room I set up in order to have this advantage.

    It might be a trivial thing ...but I think we should make it an "even" set of hands to avoid this issue.

    Perhaps making it (36) will be a quick fix since only 4 matches have been played.
    Is it always the case that whoever sits down first gets the button first?

    While there is an advantage to the player who goes first, if the button is randomly given to player 1 or 2 at the beginning of the round, then there's no way for a player to take advantage.

    Nonetheless, I see that there is an edge and that an even number of rounds removes that edge.

    I don't want to change the rules unless there is a group consensus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Is it always the case that whoever sits down first gets the button first?

    While there is an advantage to the player who goes first, if the button is randomly given to player 1 or 2 at the beginning of the round, then there's no way for a player to take advantage.
    It isn't random - the person setting up the table gets the button first every time.

    I think making it 36 hands is an easy fix - it is like playing 2 rounds of golf.
  7. #82
    @madmojomonkey - can't post a link.

    flopturnriverdotcom/open-face-chinese-poker/table.php?7623
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    Quote Originally Posted by sshefri View Post
    @madmojomonkey - can't post a link.

    flopturnriverdotcom/open-face-chinese-poker/table.php?7623
    Here's the link (note that I just changed dot to .): http://www.flopturnriver.com/open-fa...table.php?7623

    Looks like sshefri beat eberetta1 by 46.
  9. #84
    i vote making it 36 rounds.
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    I have 3 votes for changing it to 36 round matches instead of 35 rounds. There are 16 players at this point, so I'd like to hear from a few more before I switch it.

    I have added the following to the rules of the round robin:
    "If someone fails to show for a match, and hasn't made contact with myself or their opponent, then both players will be awarded 0 points, and the no-show will be DQ's from the round robin."

    It is now in the OP.

    ***
    The registrations seem to have tapered off. How does everyone feel about closing registration and starting round 2?
  11. #86
    Can round 2 wait a day or two so grateful dead And I can get our match in?
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    Of course. I will (if needed) allow 2 - 3 days once registration is closed for people to schedule and complete their matches.
  13. #88
    I am cool with 36. Not a biggie to go from 35 to 36 lol.

    I have reached out to the player i am suppose to play, but haven't heard back. Are there any thoughts to a method to communicate? Perhaps scheduling the games for people in advance so everyone knows when they have to play?
  14. #89
    I'm fine with 36 in round 2, as long as all of the remaining first-round games are played to 35. I'm also all good with closing registration and moving to round 2.
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    You're in schmondex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgboy View Post
    I am cool with 36. Not a biggie to go from 35 to 36 lol.

    I have reached out to the player i am suppose to play, but haven't heard back. Are there any thoughts to a method to communicate? Perhaps scheduling the games for people in advance so everyone knows when they have to play?
    OK, I'm in favor of 36 rounds in principle, but I think it's a very minor advantage. Also, in a single elimination bracket, no one ever brought it up that we should play an even number of rounds there (it was 25 in the last tournament). So I'm not sure how big a deal it really is.

    My plan to deal with rule changes from now on is this:
    Talk about it in the thread. If 1/3 of the registered have the same opinion and there is no dissent, then the rule changes. Otherwise, I will require a majority.

    E.g. at 17 people... if there are 6 votes to switch to 36 rounds matches instead of 35, and no one says otherwise, then I'll switch it. If even one person doesn't want to change it, then I would need 9 votes to change.

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    If you sent your opponent a PM and have posted in this thread, then you've done all I can expect you to do. If you happen to have email and phone numbers exchanged, then that's a bonus. I'm not expecting anyone to communicate outside of FTR in order to schedule their matches.

    I have amended the rules to explicitly deal with no-shows, and I hope everyone is following the thread throughout the event.

    In short: if your opponent doesn't respond to your requests to schedule a game, then he will be disqualified from the event, and you will be awarded 0 points for this round, treating the round as a bye.

    If only 1 person is communicating with me, then the other person is DQ'd if it comes to that. If both people are communicating with me, then it is highly unlikely that I will DQ anyone.

    I'd much rather work with someone who is willing to work with me... That is to say: If you are being helpful as far as keeping me informed to why you are not scheduling your match, then I will do my best to be helpful and allow some extra time to you.
  18. #93
    I agree with you Madmojomonkey. I have received correspondance with my opponent finally. We will work out our time issues (he is from Austrialia). What will be the rule of process before a DQ? Personally i would rather play that get a 0 for not being able to. Just takes away an opportunity to move up the ladder.
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    I'm sure we'd all rather play than take a bye, but if your opponent isn't there... what can I do?

    I can penalize the no-show. The only reasonable way to do so is to DQ them, and treat the round as a bye for their opponent.

    There was some behind the scenes discussion about whether to null all the scores from matches with a DQ'd player. Ultimately, it was decided that making abrupt changes to people's (already earned) scores would be a greater evil than leaving scores from a player who is no longer a valid competitor.

    So the rule goes something like:
    If you've earned the points, they're yours. If someone is DQ'd, they're out.
  20. #95
    You have a good sense of humor Madmojo... I heard from setzy and he said he would be able to play match soon.
  21. #96
    I joined, haha! Let's play whenever
    Save your stories 'cuz they're all the same..
  22. #97
    count me in as well
  23. #98
    @eberatta1 - nm, thanks!
  24. #99
    Any word on when Round 2 will start?
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    You're in tedium.

    Schmondex play against tedium for round 1.

    Create a table and play for 35 rounds. Please post your table number (from the FTR OFC lobby) when you post the results of your match. I see that neither of you has a high enough post count to post a link, so if you tell me the table number, I can post the link for you.

    Also, you both have probably not got the ability to use PM's, so post in this thread to communicate with each other to schedule your match.
  26. #101
    @schmondex i can play tonight or tomorrow from 8pm to 11pm CET.I'll open a table, you get in and ask me for the pass.
    @madmojo what time limit did you agree on?2min ot 3:30?
  27. #102

    Default tournament

    @tedium today 11.00 cet I have time or Friday evening
  28. #103

    Default Round1

    i am online all days from about 9:00 - 22:00 MEZ (04:00 - 17:00 ET)
    i am ready for boxman444, just pm me back or write into the chat
  29. #104
    Wfnm1 def dawgboy by 26.

    Wfnm1 +26
    Dawgboy -26
  30. #105
    Wfnm1 +26 > dawgboy -26. Table 7973. gg mate
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    Thanks Wfnm1 for the table number.

    Here's the link to that match.
    http://www.flopturnriver.com/open-face-chinese-poker/table.php?7973


    I have sent boxman44 a PM, as well. There's still time, but we'll be closing the registration soon, so the clock's about to start ticking.
  32. #107
    How did you put the link in? I tried to copy and paste the URL and also using the link button and when I tried to submit it said "You are not allowed to use 'square bracket' URL 'square bracket' bbcode."
  33. #108
    Well I made one or two bad decisions and I think it cost me the game.

    OhEfSeabiscuit +117
    Setzy -117
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  34. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by Setzy View Post
    Well I made one or two bad decisions and I think it cost me the game.

    OhEfSeabiscuit +117

    Setzy -117
    Is this a second round game?

    Also, could you post a link to the results? Thanks.
  35. #110
    Hi, It was our first round match that we were told to play from a few days ago. Hope his didn't mess things up. Here's the link.
    http://www.flopturnriver.com/open-fa.../play.php?7816
  36. #111
    I see in the scores for the first round it has a score already for us. We hadn't played before this game and I assume it must be another score from a different game.?.?
  37. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by OhEfSEAbiscuit View Post
    Hi, It was our first round match that we were told to play from a few days ago. Hope his didn't mess things up. Here's the link.
    http://www.flopturnriver.com/open-fa.../play.php?7816
    This isn't the link that helps. This is just a link to the now-dead table you played at.

    From the OFC lobby, find the link to your game with Setzy. Then click on the R on the right. This will take you to the history. When there, copy and paste that URL and then post that in this forum. Thanks.
  38. #113
    http://www.flopturnriver.com/open-fa...table.php?7816

    Here's the other link. The original link still shows amount of rounds along with score so it makes me curious to what's the difference? Is it to see how the hands played is what you want showed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Setzy View Post
    Well I made one or two bad decisions and I think it cost me the game.

    OhEfSeabiscuit +117
    Setzy -117
    Thanks. The OP is corrected. I don't know where I came up with that other result... I thought I saw it in this thread, but now I can't find it, so ... sorry.

    No one is playing round 2 matches, yet. I haven't even posted who's playing who yet. I haven't even figured it out yet with the new entries.

    As soon as registration is officially re-closed, I will work out the schedule and post round 2 match-ups.
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    OK, late registration is officially closed.

    Players have 48 hours to complete their round 1 matches. Please make sure you communicate with me if you have a reason why this is not enough time.

    I will be posting round 2 matches on Saturday, March 22 at or around noonish (St Louis time).
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    I'm looking over the thread and (unless I'm missing something) there is a player at risk of DQ in round 1.

    boxman44

    If you feel this assessment is made in error, please post in this thread. I'm not trying to push anyone out. I just want to let you know that GratefulDead has posted in the thread and I've not heard from you, boxman.
  42. #117
    I will find grateful dead online tomorrow and play
  43. #118
    @tedium
    pls post a message if you have time to play...
  44. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by OhEfSEAbiscuit View Post
    http://www.flopturnriver.com/open-fa...table.php?7816

    Here's the other link. The original link still shows amount of rounds along with score so it makes me curious to what's the difference? Is it to see how the hands played is what you want showed?
    Part of it is just traditional. We've posted links to the hand histories in past tournaments here. But, yeah, it's also nice to able to see what lines people are taking. Thanks for posting the link. Good luck.
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    any way I can join?
  46. #121
    Any word on when round 2 will start?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sam1FTR View Post
    Any word on when round 2 will start?
    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    OK, late registration is officially closed.

    Players have 48 hours to complete their round 1 matches. Please make sure you communicate with me if you have a reason why this is not enough time.

    I will be posting round 2 matches on Saturday, March 22 at or around noonish (St Louis time).
    As always, remember to read the thread to keep informed of tournament news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxbyrne View Post
    any way I can join?
    Sorry, max, you just missed it.

    Check back with this forum in mid-April or May when this round robin event will be finished. We will hold a ladder event after this one. The ladder event has open registration throughout.
  49. #124
    Played the match against BOXMAN444

    Table 8201

    GratefulDead -73
    BOXMAN444 +73
  50. #125
    Sorry Max, I played him in a game before and told him about the forum and thought this league might still be accepting signups so my bad.
  51. #126
    Played round 1 game table 8220

    TEDIUM -116
    schmondex +116
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    Round 2 match-ups are posted.

    Please give me a little time to set up the tables.

    I repeat DO NOT create your own tables for round 2. I will be creating tables w/ 36 rounds from now on.
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    OK, round 2 tables are created.

    Passwords are posted in the OP with match-up assignments.

    Game on!
  54. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    OK, round 2 tables are created.

    Passwords are posted in the OP with match-up assignments.

    Game on!
    Where are the tables? I can't see them. Also a thought, do we want to include what countries people are from, could make it more interesting/fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wfnm1 View Post
    Where are the tables? I can't see them. Also a thought, do we want to include what countries people are from, could make it more interesting/fun
    I can't see the tables either.
  56. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Round 2 match-ups are posted.

    Please give me a little time to set up the tables.

    I repeat DO NOT create your own tables for round 2. I will be creating tables w/ 36 rounds from now on.

    I can't see tables either
  57. #132
    have a look at the first post
  58. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by schmondex View Post
    have a look at the first post
    I see the player match-ups, table names, and passwords.

    I don't see the games prepared in the game lobby.
  59. #134
    ok for me the same
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    I don't know why the tables disappeared from the lobby. I'm communicating with the programmer to either find them or create new ones.

    I might be able to post links to the tables in the thread, so that would be a bonus.
  61. #136
    played round 2 table 8424

    dawgboy -16
    schmondex +16
  62. #137
    Wfnm1 hit me up for some open face fun!

    Also, probably a dumb question, do we need to make our own table or how do we find/search that password/table that was assigned to us in the first post?
    Save your stories 'cuz they're all the same..
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  64. #139
    I PMed MeGrimlock, will post the game after we play it
  65. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by Setzy View Post
    Wfnm1 hit me up for some open face fun!

    Also, probably a dumb question, do we need to make our own table or how do we find/search that password/table that was assigned to us in the first post?
    Hey mate (yes I am an Aussie),
    I sent you a private message, so check it out, so we dont spam the wall.
    Last edited by Wfnm1; 03-25-2014 at 12:21 AM.
  66. #141
    OneByPhi by 15 over Eric in a really weird game.

    http://www.flopturnriver.com/open-fa...table.php?8559
  67. #142
    @baudib when do u want to play? send me a PM
  68. #143
    ...Still haven't heard anything from MeGrimlock
  69. #144
    @ eberetta:
    Did you read my pm?
    I am playing so bad atm, it could be epic if you play me soon
  70. #145
    DuckTollingGrinder... ready for round 2 when you are. contact me
  71. #146
    MMM I sent you a PM - when did you want to play?
  72. #147
    In a sick game where no one led by more than 40, Boxmann44 drills 22 pt FL on round 32 to pull within 5, then takes to 3 pt lead heading into the last round. He has a very live flush draw entering the final street, but the odds were ever in my favor, Lady Luck shined on me at the end, Zeus lighting bolt was on my side, whatever your euphemism for an ending that was pretty much nothing more than pure luck as he missed the draw and fouled. Duck by 3.

    Player note: we were unsure if the game was to be played 35 or 36. We both agreed that if the management/bosses in charge have already concluded that matches should be 36, that this game would include the OFC equivalent of 1972 USA V Russia with time (in this case one extra hand) added. The difference,however, is that both of us are fully accepting of whatever the administration rules, provided the decision was made entirely from a biased free interpretation of what the management has concluded in regards to 35 v 36.

    Also, check out the game...down to the wire! I play it safe with a lead and four hands to go by putting QQ in back, just like a football team running up the middle 3 straight times up a score with under 2 to go. Cant post the URL apparently. 8316 is the table number.
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    I definitely created the tables with a 36 round match. (I had the number of rounds changed from 35 to 36 on the tournament table creation page, so 35 isn't even an option anymore.)

    I'm not sure why the software stopped playing after 35 rounds. Please don't play another round for now. Let's see what happens to everyone else.

    I created the tables all within a few minutes of each other, so any peculiarities with one of them should be the same for all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    I definitely created the tables with a 36 round match. (I had the number of rounds changed from 35 to 36 on the tournament table creation page, so 35 isn't even an option anymore.)

    I'm not sure why the software stopped playing after 35 rounds. Please don't play another round for now. Let's see what happens to everyone else.

    I created the tables all within a few minutes of each other, so any peculiarities with one of them should be the same for all.
    We just stopped play after 35 rounds because we both interpreted the discussions on this board to be that 36-round matches were being considered but had not been approved as the official round length. I figured that you set up the matches to be an infinite # of rounds in case of Fantasy Land on the 36th round (and a lengthy stay in FL for the 37th, 38th, 39th, etc.), so that there was a 36th round that we declined to pursue was intentional on our part. The software did its job, we just stopped playing.

    Definitely make it clear to the other people that 36 rounds has been definitively decided as the official round length from now on, becuase it definitely was not clear from the previous discussions as both me and Boxman came to the conclusion (entirely seperately) that it was still in deliberation, and therefore 35 rounds was still the current rule.

    And let us know what you want to do about our game needing one extra round.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DuckTollingGrinder View Post
    And let us know what you want to do about our game needing one extra round.
    I'm hoping that since we'll end up playing a crapload of hands (about 600 or 17 times 36) that a missing hand here or there won't make too much of a difference. I'm cool either way (leaving it out or making it up). Remember, these first 600 or so hands are just to get ladder positions so they aren't the end of everything (there will still be opportunities to climb the ladder).

    What I think will be a bigger issue is when people drop out of the league mid way through it. We decided that people who haven't yet played the people just miss out on the games. In other words, if a bad player drops out after 10 matches then the 9 people who got to play him are lucky and the 8 people he was scheduled to face miss out. I guess that is just the luck of the draw.

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