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  1. #1

    Default always getting it in here??

    no reads specifically, hes been 3betting a lot, cbetting full pot and has folded to a flop check raise twice. been playing about an hour and were both about 225bbs deep. his 3bet hands that I saw were KJT8ds,T876ss,JT76ds,AAKTds,KKQTss

    hero is UTG with and opens for pot 3.5 BBs, villain in MP 3bets to 11.5 BBs, hero calls

    pot is 24.5 BBs

    flop is

    hero bets 22 BBs, villain tanks..raises 90BBs, hero shoves, villain calls..

    title says it all I mean if he has naked T9, and flush hits or board pairs I expect him to shut down, if he has set or FD we have him crushed, I don't see how we can ever flat flop here correct??
    Last edited by acg123; 12-01-2014 at 09:09 PM.
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  2. #2
    Definitely get it in on this flop if you can for exactly the reasons you mentioned. There are a lot of scare cards that will shut him down, all clubs , a 7 8 or j and also a 9 or a T.
    You are ahead of anything that he could have, even 9Txx with FD or even 9T77. However since you mentioned that he tanked-raised he probably has something like QTxx w FD.
    I'm never slow playing this, I would just click it back.
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    that's what I thought, we ended up AI and he showed , it held. lmao gotta love this game.
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    Given the hand that you have you are almost never getting raised on this flop by anything other than the nuts.

    I used to raise hands like this pre from EP, but I think it's pretty bad. Limping is better.
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  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    Given the hand that you have you are almost never getting raised on this flop by anything other than the nuts.
    But we do agree that best play is to get it in on the flop right ? He's got 63%
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    Given the hand that you have you are almost never getting raised on this flop by anything other than the nuts.

    I used to raise hands like this pre from EP, but I think it's pretty bad. Limping is better.
    under normal circumstances I would limp, especially 225bbs deep. Villians 3bettting range is wide enough that I think hands like this gain enough value to open and flat with. I mean hes raising me everytime I limp or raise. if I raise and he 3bets, were almost always heads up with the occasional flat or cold 4bet from the blinds so I think raising here is ok to get the pot big enough so no one else gets involved. I mean if the BB repops it I fold pre, if he flats then ill play it out with caution but ideally im trying to get heads up with the light bettor. hes immediately on my left too so I only have position on him for one hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingmotan View Post
    But we do agree that best play is to get it in on the flop right ? He's got 63%
    so sick, I was counting my outs and was like wtf, im a favorite click,click allin..brick..brick dammit..
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    Gotta get it in here, we're counting toes.

    Yes, he has the straight much of the time but we're about 2:1 to boat/quad not to mention our nut flush draw.
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    yeah i wouldn't stack off on the flop with his hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    yeah i wouldn't stack off on the flop with his hand.
    care to share your wisdom??
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    basically never stacking off for 225 BBs on the flop in a HU pot with a hand that can't improve.

    there are worse scenarios than 63-37, we can be getting freerolled, something like QT9xcc is a disaster; T988cc is even worse.

    Flop is a flat with the naked nuts IMO, when the turn bricks we can start putting pressure on him.
    Last edited by baudib; 12-02-2014 at 09:23 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    basically never stacking off for 225 BBs on the flop in a HU pot with a hand that can't improve.
    whaatttt..?? please explain this
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    I think the statement stands on its own?
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    I think the statement stands on its own?
    Yeah I don't think baudib read the hand properly; this is a super std GII spot. NH

    If baudib did read the hand right and said what he said, he is probably failing to consider that flatting that raise otf leaves us with <1 SPR on the turn so "starting to put pressure" on the turn is not an option. Also how is it a help to us if the turn bricks? Villain is repping made straight anyway and it won't make him any more likely to fold or w/e.

    And, if it even needs to be said -- his range is not just T988 or whatever crap baudib was saying. I mean I can't get over how you can make a range that tight off a few actions. Plain ridiculous. Is villain never shoving worse flush draws? worse sets? Come on, man.

    ITT baudib sees the result of a hand and trolls the OP
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post

    there are worse scenarios than 63-37, we can be getting freerolled, something like QT9xcc is a disaster; T988cc is even worse.
    Okay it's impossible for us to be freerolled here, it is now obvious baudib misread the hand lol :/
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    I am not misreading anything. I am literally never raising this flop this deep with T993dd.
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  17. #17
    Soo, you're the villain? Hero has JJAxcc for top set + nut FD
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    yeah i wouldn't stack off on the flop with his hand.
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    I must not be the only one who finds it odd you randomly switched to talking about villain's action lol hey man it's live PLO how good can they be? dude was probably like "I HAS NUTS" <ships>
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    FWIW you're right, villain is terrible for pot raising there. With a hand like that v aggression it's almost like you're drawing to blanks as if they were outs.
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    oh in rereading I guess it wasn't clear that I was talking about the T993 hand, my bad.
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    Yeah, he has T9XX most of the time here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    oh in rereading I guess it wasn't clear that I was talking about the T993 hand, my bad.
    this explains everything..lol I wouldn't raise either, I flat flop and jam brick turns..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penneywize View Post
    I must not be the only one who finds it odd you randomly switched to talking about villain's action lol hey man it's live PLO how good can they be? dude was probably like "I HAS NUTS" <ships>
    not live, $5 PLO on bovada, I guess I should of stated that..lol you cant get handhistories from bovada so I have to type them out. sucks but its the only US site with good enough traffic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acg123 View Post
    not live, $5 PLO on bovada, I guess I should of stated that..lol you cant get handhistories from bovada so I have to type them out. sucks but its the only US site with good enough traffic.
    Yeah, it's hard to play online in the US these days. I miss PokerStars.
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    title says it all I mean if he has naked T9, and flush hits or board pairs I expect him to shut down, if he has set or FD we have him crushed, I don't see how we can ever flat flop here correct??
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