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    Default 99 in CO, raised behind limpers, FH board

    10 handed 2-2 casino game. Two limpers in front, one of them very bad, the other kind of taggy. I raise to 14 with 99, BU who is a reggy asian guy who seems like the type who likes to make tricky plays calls, everybody else folds. I'm 100BB deep with him.

    Flop comes

    I check, he checks behind.

    Turn comes

    I bet 14, he calls.

    River is

    Does bet/fold sound like a reasonable plan? Or is this a check/fold hoping to see a showdown? Also who rather limps behind here with 99?
    Last edited by eugmac; 09-11-2011 at 05:41 PM.
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    i bet flop and go from there. also, i'm never limping 99 behind "very bad" limpers
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    Raising limpers in CO is very standard play.Bet flop,turn and river.
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    raise pre, bet flop, bet turn, likely bet river as well.
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    ya on second thought i guess plenty of hands call with worse on flop.

    as played, i bet 30 on river, he raises to 90. Hero who wasn't really expecting this kind of wants to cawl?
    Last edited by eugmac; 09-12-2011 at 02:17 AM.
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    vs a "tricky player" you probably get flatted by any pocket pair (many of the better ones arent in his range due to flatting pre), as well as a ton of ace-high and other floats.

    edit: this is referring to the flop
    Last edited by rpm; 09-12-2011 at 03:13 AM.
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    whoa ninja reply, i just added river action rpm in case you don't see my edit.
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    that's kind of interesting. i definitely think we need to be betting the river (in response to your original question) because there are a ton of hands in his range that we beat which he probably checks back, but which he would call a bet with (all pairs, some of the better ace highs). and i like your sizing.

    when he raises his range is obviously super-duper-polarised given he checks back the flop and flats the turn. the thing is, our range looks pretty damn polarised as well - if he's able to handread. he can probably only have roughly 12 combos of kings here on average (KTs,KTo,KJs,KJo,KQs,KQo) or (KTs,KJs,KJo,KQs,KQo,AKs,AKo) so i think i'm inclined to call, simply because he has a really narrow value range, and only need to be bluffing 1/4 of the time (so roughly 3 or 4 combos) given we are getting ~3:1 on our call. vs a more straightforward player or fishy kind of "trappy" player obviously snap fold, but given our read that this guy is a little tricky, i'm inclined to call. that said, i don't expect to win much more than 25% of the time, if that.
    Last edited by rpm; 09-12-2011 at 03:12 AM.
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    I bet this flop with most hands. Given reads river call can't be bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eugmac View Post
    as played, i bet 30 on river, he raises to 90. Hero who wasn't really expecting this kind of wants to cawl?
    Would he play AA-TT like this?

    How loose is he calling your raise pre-flop?

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