9 hands from a 400PLO session playing deepstack aggressive

Here's some hands from a session of 400PLO I had tonight. With the exeption of Hand 0 which precedes all the other hands, I've mixed up the hands so as to not give away the results by the fluctuations of my stack. I won't give reads, but this was the same table, and I had made a conscious effort to lag it up. I'd been playing ultra-aggressive, raising and betting regularly, went up hundred, lost one-fifty, bought back for the max, and then played hand zero, which shows the mood I was in. The action was fast and loose, and my image is much more significant than reads, because I was basically dictating how the table played. All players are basically gunning for me.

Onto the hands... please give your comments; which ones do you like, which is spew, when do you play differently? Feel free to ask about my reasoning at any stage.

HAND ZERO:

Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with
2 folds, Button calls, SB calls, Hero raises to $16, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: ($48, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $46, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: ($140, 2 players)
Hero bets $138, Button folds.
Uncalled bets: $138 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $140


******* Hand 1 ********

Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
4 players
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Stack sizes:
salsa4ever: $464.20
Button: $251.63
SB: $401.40
BB: $1824.22

Pre-flop: (4 players) salsa4ever is UTG with K T K 7
salsa4ever raises to $14, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 2 J Q ($30, 2 players)
BB checks, salsa4ever bets $28.5, BB calls.

Turn: 6 ($87, 2 players)
BB checks, salsa4ever bets $85, BB calls.

River: 6 ($257, 2 players)
BB checks, salsa4ever checks.

Results:
Final pot: $257


******* Hand 2 ********

Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $611.11
UTG+1: $356.60
salsa4ever: $2039.30
Button: $144.33
SB: $310
BB: $396

Pre-flop: (6 players) salsa4ever is CO with K K A A
UTG raises to $14, UTG+1 folds, salsa4ever raises to $48, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: T Q 3 ($148, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, salsa4ever bets $145, SB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: 4 ($438, 2 players)
UTG checks, salsa4ever bets $435, UTG calls all-in $418.11.
Uncalled bets: $16.89 returned to salsa4ever.

River: 9 ($1274.22, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $1274.22)


Results:
Final pot: $1274.22


******* Hand 3 ********

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Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $1519.93
UTG+1: $1417.82
CO: $354
salsa4ever: $975.80
SB: $354
BB: $400

Pre-flop: (6 players) salsa4ever is Button with A 4 A 8
UTG raises to $14, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, salsa4ever raises to $62, 2 folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: T 5 4 ($192, 3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $189, salsa4ever raises to $756, UTG folds, UTG+1 raises all-in $1166.82, salsa4ever calls all-in $157.8.
Uncalled bets: $442.02 returned to UTG+1.

Turn: 7 ($2019.6, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $2019.6)


River: 2 ($2019.6, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $2019.6)


Results:
Final pot: $2019.6


******* Hand 4 ********

Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $400
UTG+1: $1931.22
CO: $493.20
salsa4ever: $472
SB: $241.63
BB: $280

Pre-flop: (6 players) salsa4ever is Button with J 7 8 T
UTG raises to $4, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, salsa4ever raises to $46, 2 folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

Flop: 9 T 4 ($190, 4 players)
UTG bets $189, 2 folds, salsa4ever raises all-in $426, UTG calls all-in $169.
Uncalled bets: $68 returned to salsa4ever.

Turn: J ($906, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $906)


River: 2 ($906, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $906)


Results:
Final pot: $906


******* Hand 5 ********

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Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
7 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $1875.59
UTG+1: $370
MP1: $1124.22
CO: $318.60
salsa4ever: $1439.29
SB: $92
BB: $624

Pre-flop: (7 players) salsa4ever is Button with K J T Q
2 folds, MP1 raises to $14, CO folds, salsa4ever raises to $48, 2 folds, MP1 calls.

Flop: A 5 K ($102, 2 players)
MP1 checks, salsa4ever checks.

Turn: T ($102, 2 players)
MP1 checks, salsa4ever bets $99, MP1 calls.

River: 6 ($300, 2 players)
MP1 checks, salsa4ever bets $297, MP1 calls.

Results:
Final pot: $894


******* Hand 6 ********

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Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
8 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $780.20
UTG+1: $76
salsa4ever: $1882.29
MP2: $34
CO: $687
Button: $364
SB: $81.40
BB: $587.22

Pre-flop: (8 players) salsa4ever is MP1 with K 2 3 K
2 folds, salsa4ever calls, MP2 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB raises to $20, salsa4ever calls, CO calls, SB folds.

Flop: K T 4 ($64, 3 players)
BB bets $61, salsa4ever calls, CO folds.

Turn: 5 ($186, 2 players)
BB bets $96, salsa4ever calls.

River: Q ($378, 2 players)
BB bets $96, salsa4ever calls.

Results:
Final pot: $570


******* Hand 7 ********

Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
9 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $118.50
UTG+1: $816.66
MP1: $848.97
MP2: $336
MP3: $169.50
CO: $350
Button: $245.60
SB: $242
salsa4ever: $2110.33

Pre-flop: (9 players) salsa4ever is BB with A K 9 T
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP3 calls, 2 folds, SB raises to $20, salsa4ever calls, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: K J 3 ($80, 4 players)
SB bets $36, salsa4ever calls, UTG+1 folds, MP3 calls.

Turn: 7 ($188, 3 players)
SB checks, salsa4ever bets $185, MP3 calls all-in $113.5, SB folds.
Uncalled bets: $71.5 returned to salsa4ever.

River: 5 ($415, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $415)


Results:
Final pot: $415


******* Hand 8 ********

Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
7 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $256
UTG+1: $175.10
MP1: $433.90
CO: $1927.62
Button: $433.65
salsa4ever: $963
BB: $219.63

Pre-flop: (7 players) salsa4ever is SB with
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, CO calls, Button calls, salsa4ever raises to $28, 2 folds, MP1 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: ($120, 4 players)
salsa4ever bets $117, 2 folds, Button raises all-in $405.65, salsa4ever folds.
Uncalled bets: $405.65 returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: $237

Hand 0 - you'd expect villain to push or fold here?
Hand 1 - super standard, especially if you're aggressive?
Hand 2 - One pair + gutshot so you're relying heavily on FE. This seems very spwey.

If you're being super aggressive it doesn't seem like it would take much for a villain to call here.

Hand 3 - Donk betting is more common in PLO correct? This looks like a set to me, but pretty standard

Hand 4 - super standard
Hand 5 - flop, are you afraid of a c/r or being free-rolled?

turn/river, super standard

Hand 6 - I like

Hand 7 - SB is a donk?

Hand 8 - what about never raising in EP? flop sucks, but seems standard

0. He probably isn't calling unless he has aces up or better. Most players will let go of a bare (nut) flush draw to a pot sized bet on the turn.

1. Good. Although with your image he might look you up with a good Queen here.

2. I check behind on the turn in spots like these.

3. Standard.

4. Preflop action looks odd. How does UTG raise to $4 if the BB is $4? Since your raise was to $46, it looks like UTG raised to $10.

Spots like this with deeper money can cause problems (multiple non-nut draws). But in the 4 way reraised pot the money is shallow enough to gamble here.

5. Perfect. Flop is an easy check behind hoping for our ~6 outer.

6. A read helps here. River looks like a block/value bet. We're most likely beat but he could well have something like TT or the straight.

7. Messing around with hands like tp+gutshot can get you in trouble. With an active player behind us still (even though he's a short stack) I am inclined to check.

8. Good fold. Flops like this you are either dead to a king/backdoor flush or just slightly ahead if he has a monster straight draw like 9TQx

I think the c-bet in hand 8 is Hold'em Donk Spew (tm).

Hand 5 the flop check is interesting, probably the right play given the deep money and I guess a thinking/aggro opponent? I'd bet here a lot because I'm going to be put on AAxx or KKxx.

The rest of the hands are g00t.

it seems like you got folds in hand zero, but never again. So, I don't understand all this turn aggression if no one ever folds. Ironically, the best hand you flop (top set+K high flush) you slow play! Now, that is a good spot to s/p but with your crazed self.

Most of the flop aggression was pretty good, although I wonder if anyone ever fold anything with equity against you.

Hand 8 is classic PLO crappy spot. You are ahead of an average hand, so you want to bet. Except you are OOP, and you will fold everything you are beating. But if you check, he may bluff or he may take a card that beats you. Without a read on the player, I generally just check/fold. If he's known to take stabs you might call a bet because you have several redraws to the nuts. Or if he's known to 1/2 pot bluff you can check/raise.

I wouldn't reraise preflop with A-A-4-8 if there was still a lot of money behind.

Originally Posted by zenbitz

it seems like you got folds in hand zero, but never again. So, I don't understand all this turn aggression if no one ever folds. Ironically, the best hand you flop (top set+K high flush) you slow play! Now, that is a good spot to s/p but with your crazed self.

Most of the flop aggression was pretty good, although I wonder if anyone ever fold anything with equity against you.

Hand 8 is classic PLO crappy spot. You are ahead of an average hand, so you want to bet. Except you are OOP, and you will fold everything you are beating. But if you check, he may bluff or he may take a card that beats you. Without a read on the player, I generally just check/fold. If he's known to take stabs you might call a bet because you have several redraws to the nuts. Or if he's known to 1/2 pot bluff you can check/raise.

When playing LAGG, the idea would be to get them to call with crap that's worse than the crap I'm holding, or sometimes fold a better hand. The pressure is on them to work out how their hand stands against mine. Like the guy who called my nut straight for 2 PSB.

Hand 8 still bothers me

Originally Posted by Fnord

I think the c-bet in hand 8 is Hold'em Donk Spew (tm).

Hand 5 the flop check is interesting, probably the right play given the deep money and I guess a thinking/aggro opponent? I'd bet here a lot because I'm going to be put on AAxx or KKxx.

The rest of the hands are g00t.

check fold hand 8? Can't really check push...

Originally Posted by swiggidy

Hand 0 - you'd expect villain to push or fold here?
Hand 1 - super standard, especially if you're aggressive?
Hand 2 - One pair + gutshot so you're relying heavily on FE. This seems very spwey.

If you're being super aggressive it doesn't seem like it would take much for a villain to call here.

Hand 3 - Donk betting is more common in PLO correct? This looks like a set to me, but pretty standard

Hand 4 - super standard
Hand 5 - flop, are you afraid of a c/r or being free-rolled?

turn/river, super standard

Hand 6 - I like

Hand 7 - SB is a donk?

Hand 8 - what about never raising in EP? flop sucks, but seems standard

Hand 0 I expect him to fold.

Hand 2, villain called with a worse hand

Hand 3, villain has a set

Hand 4, I have 60% eq against a TT52 rainbow

Hand 5, don't wanna get c/r ed

Hand 6, my flush is g00t

Hand 7, SB called with a worse hand

Hand 8 just sucks

0-yes
1-omg vbet
2-std
3-prolly flat pre, as played i supposed its std
4-ok
5-ok
6-no idea, its ok if hes terrible
7-yea, if they were deeper u still bet turn??
8-i think b/f here sucks..

how'd I do

in all of these hands you seem to be auto-potting (or close enough, minus a few bb's) if you are going to bet the flop or turn. is this standard or just part of the aggroman image you were flaunting during the session?