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10-31-2009, 02:14 AM
Post subject: ~~ WW Halloween Dead Thread ~~
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JKDS
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wait what?
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Originally Posted by OngBonga
But no, jkds is lolvillager and anyone who wants to string him up is sighbad.
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lolzzz_321
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NO YOU
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I had to make a friendly edit to one of your posts, JKDS 
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JKDS
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Full House
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AH HA FOUND IT!
and i could swear it was a 13...ah well my mistake. woulda came out a lil earlier had i known...but w/e we got a zombie.
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Originally Posted by OngBonga
But no, jkds is lolvillager and anyone who wants to string him up is sighbad.
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Warpe
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I still got the mojo.
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lolzzz_321
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NO YOU
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Alright quick reminder not to talk strat/anythingaboutthisspecificgame here but you can talk game mechanics.
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DoanDiggy
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Flush
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So the vig shoots before the alpha recruits, no?
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bode
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its sad that even with spenda's weak defense of himself he still got 1/2 the votes rescinded.
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eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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Stacks
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I love you guys!
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GatorJH
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I love you guys!
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lol
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Poker is easy, it's winning at poker that's hard.
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Keith
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arghhhhhhh just typed up a long defence as well......
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GatorJH
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Originally Posted by bode
its sad that even with spenda's weak defense of himself he still got 1/2 the votes rescinded.
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I only rescinded because of the "if stacks is a zombie Spenda most likely isn't" argument.
You get one early in this game, I got one early in last game. Us old people know how to do this!!!
Well done Old Man Warpe, well done.
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Poker is easy, it's winning at poker that's hard.
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kiwiMark
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So correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like every night we lynch a zombie, we don't get a medium, so the zombies can recruit somebody, with the exception of the slight chance of the angel protecting who they pick.
Which means every morning after lynching a zombie, we wake up and there are the same number of zombies in our village. So we have to not only lynch one of the two zombies, but also successfully shoot the other (again, a somewhat slim chance) on the same night, to win?
Jaysus.
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JKDS
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makes it fun imo.
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Originally Posted by OngBonga
But no, jkds is lolvillager and anyone who wants to string him up is sighbad.
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GatorJH
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and unless I am missing something shouldn't the game be over?
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Poker is easy, it's winning at poker that's hard.
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Penneywize
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Originally Posted by GatorJH
and unless I am missing something shouldn't the game be over?
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shhhh dont jinx it bud.
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Stacks
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So who's gonna be the lucky individual to put a bullet in my head?
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lolzzz_321
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NO YOU
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alpha recruits before vig shoots, also take a look at the halloween special rule for the alpha 
also, there will always be an alpha zombie, so gl village
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Stacks
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Originally Posted by lolzzz_321
alpha recruits before vig shoots, a lso take a look at the halloween special rule for the alpha
also, there will always be an alpha zombie, so gl village |
imo
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Pelion
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Originally Posted by lolzzz_321
alpha recruits before vig shoots
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So how the hell do we win? Even if we lynch one and shoot the other we still have to protect the totally random right person aswell? Thats pretty ridiculous.
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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DoanDiggy
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I like these rules. This should be a good one! Gogogo alpha and vig!
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StillDeadMoney
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Only a few scenarios where the village gains ground against the zombies (or holds it, which favors the village because they outnumber the zombies so the number of zombie votes reaches 0 first):
1- villager hung, recruitment blocked (by the angel or medium), vig shoots zombie = -1 votes for villagers and zombies
2- zombie hung, zombie recruited, vig shoots zombie = -1 votes for villagers and zombies
3- zombie hung, recruitment blocked (by the angel), vig shoots villager = -1 votes for villagers and zombies
4- zombie hung, recruitment blocked (by the angel), vig shoots zombie = -2 votes for the zombies
Every other scenario has the zombies gaining ground against the village. The above 4 scenarios all involve a lot of luck on the village's part, as well.
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kiwiMark
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Originally Posted by Pelion
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Originally Posted by lolzzz_321
alpha recruits before vig shoots
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So how the hell do we win? Even if we lynch one and shoot the other we still have to protect the totally random right person aswell? Thats pretty ridiculous. |
This. And without a medium it's not like we've got very high chances of protecting said right person.
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Stacks
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The plot thickens.
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StillDeadMoney
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almost forgot:
5- zombie hung, recruitment blocked (by the angel), vig does not shoot or shoots a protected villager = -1 vote for the zombies
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Originally Posted by bigred
So i was gone for the weekend but wow...you lynch sdm, you don't shoot ragnar orrrr stax. dumbest fucking village. i hope we lost cause we deserve it. dumb fucks. im also drunk and high but srsly fuck u
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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
No fears, people fuck up in this game all the time. Just make sure you deflect your failures by reminding people that SDM is somehow worse.
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around there always being an alpha zombie. But, that won't matter. Since we'll all be eventually recruited and therefor be on the winning team!
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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why is it that the seer had to post openly about who he found and couldn't simply pm the vig with the target? Y'know, to balance out the immortal recruiting power of the wolves and avoid having the alpha sacrifice himself grabbing 2 wolf recruits?
Trip, man, these rules seem gay. I really hope the wolves recruit me. Because the village can't win. If the wolves get more than 3 people, it's basically game over with a perpetual alpha.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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bigspenda73
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i dont want to hear it, the rules were awful for the zombies before the alpha thing surfaced
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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lol, you're right. They were horrible with you're recruiting power cut to 2/3rds on days when villagers are lynched!
My bad, game on! You guys totally deserve a 95% winning percentage for surviving 2 days under false pretenses.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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The super angel vrs an infinite alpha is not a balanced fight
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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Just let the alpha sac himself, making 2 normal zombos. Then let the village hunt them down. Drop the supa-angel, the medium and lets just run it out like a normal WW.
2 wolves have done it against incredible odds before. And it's not like the 2 days already past will help us find them.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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Stacks
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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
lol, you're right. They were horrible with you're recruiting power cut to 2/3rds on days when villagers are lynched!
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Lol if you think this is the only thing we had going against us.
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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go on
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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JKDS
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they had a competent seer that would find little things and wtf pwn identify zombies like no other amirite???
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Originally Posted by OngBonga
But no, jkds is lolvillager and anyone who wants to string him up is sighbad.
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kiwiMark
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I think there's a 0.0001% chance that spenda's a zombie
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AMIRITE
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Pelion
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Originally Posted by JKDS
I am the seer and spenda is not a wolf
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yeah.... something like that :P
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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Stacks
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Sorry, but can't right now. Most probably know what I'm referring to, but if not, I don't want it to affect gameplay.
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JKDS
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Full House
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pshh WHATEV. it was good logic!
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Originally Posted by OngBonga
But no, jkds is lolvillager and anyone who wants to string him up is sighbad.
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Stacks
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Originally Posted by JKDS
I think there's a 0.0001% chance that spenda's a zombie
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Wrong...
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Originally Posted by JKDS
I am the seer and spenda is not a wolf
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Wrong...
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Originally Posted by JKDS
I AM THE BATMAN AND STAX IS A WOLF
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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Originally Posted by XxStacksxX
Sorry, but can't right now. Most probably know what I'm referring to, but if not, I don't want it to affect gameplay.
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Alright, anyone from the "most" side of things wanna explain?
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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JKDS
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Full House
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psh, who'd thunk you'd go all willy nilly attacking your comrades when it wasnt even known theyred be an infinite alpha yet?
and i AM the batman
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Originally Posted by OngBonga
But no, jkds is lolvillager and anyone who wants to string him up is sighbad.
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JKDS
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Full House
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http://tinyurl.com/dabatman
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Originally Posted by OngBonga
But no, jkds is lolvillager and anyone who wants to string him up is sighbad.
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Keith
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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
Just let the alpha sac himself, making 2 normal zombos. Then let the village hunt them down. Drop the supa-angel, the medium and lets just run it out like a normal WW.
2 wolves have done it against incredible odds before. And it's not like the 2 days already past will help us find them.
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THIS....if theres always an alpha I can't see how the village can ever win without the medium permanently blocking conversions then the next day lynching a villager to get the medium back then shooting a wolf every other night.
Just let the special rule kick in allowing the sacrifice and 2 new zombies and drop the alpha wolf/medium/angel of death.whilst interesting the math didnt work and rules seem to be made to try and force it back to a fair fight but end up taking it too far the other way.
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kiwiMark
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If the super angel of supertown can defend himself indefinitely, then the village seems to always win, albeit only by extreme luck or shooting villagers one-by-one until there are two villagers left: A zombie with nobody left to recruit, and Mr Badass Angel himself.
Kinda lame?
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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The village cant always win based on the angels ability to survive the entire time because the wolves number can never diminish. Consider that we hit this one out of the park through 2 days and we're still going to lose.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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Even if we knew who the 2 new wolves were, if 1 were the alpha, we would likely lose?
We'd lynch wolf 1, they'd recruit a new 1 over night, then day 2 we'd lynch the other. Even if we knew who the 3rd were, when we shoot him at night, the 4th appears. Then we'd have to know the 4th and lynch him the next day to win.
cliffs, we're 3 days of perfect villager play away from winning at this point.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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kiwiMark
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
The village cant always win based on the angels ability to survive the entire time because the wolves number can never diminish. Consider that we hit this one out of the park through 2 days and we're still going to lose.
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The wolves number can diminish, because eventually they run of villagers to recruit. That's what I was driving for with "lame".
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lolzzz_321
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Meh, I didn't balance things well at all. I just kind of wanna redo this one and do a more more classic alpha ones.
If not, we can keep this game running and do something like 'rilla suggested and let the alpha choose 2 or 3 non alpha zombies.
Lol @ spenda complaining
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Stacks
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Meh.. I'm fine with whatever.. I'll either be dead tomorrow, and not care. Or start up another game. But only if I can be the alpha and everyone must play dumb until at least Night 5.
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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I think we could toss all the names back in the hat and start fresh
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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