Werewolf Blank

Originally Posted by flomo

We should lynch BID , and the vig should shoot flomo.

Originally Posted by flomo

This play would remove 2 not so bright players from the village, which would help the village.

Originally Posted by flomo

If putting me on a wagon helps the village, I'm game for it.

It looks like I'll be shot in the face eventually by bigred.

Originally Posted by flomo

Let's wagon up me, TLR and someone else(JKDS?)

Originally Posted by flomo

AAAaaaaasRRRRRooooooooooooo!

Originally Posted by flomo

April Fool's!

Originally Posted by flomo

Originally Posted by wufwugy

I feel like Flobro wouldn't be drunk playing if he was a wolf too. I mean, I already have him as a villager for the Boog/BID interaction reasons, but being a wolf is more srsbsns and I think he would not wanna accidentally post wrong by being drunk. I have felt like that when I'm a special and drinking

not a good read
i wa s drunk as seer last game

Just lol at anyone who tries to tell me flomo is a wolf.

"Same Shit, Different Day" --Dreamcatcher, by Stephen King

You're thinking, "Did he fire 173 times, or 174?" Well, do you feel lucky, PUNK?

Loaded Weapon 1

I'm going to make a popular decision here and drop the post restriction punishment for everyone.

Originally Posted by OngBonga

It's not even close, not unless benny lied to us and he didn't look TLR up yesterday.

No, I didn't lie.

I'd like to see everyone's pick for most likely wolf. Just one name. Who should we pick off first?

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

I'm going to make a popular decision here and drop the post restriction punishment for everyone.

I apologize for all the things I said about you to everyone I met today then. You're not really a fascist. That was poor judgement on my part.

Originally Posted by BennyLaRue

No, I didn't lie.

In which case I eagerly await you confirming last night's look up. I realise you won't be telling us just yet.

Hoopy is my pick for today, not that I think it matters greatly since we have to lynch the wolves one after another, there's no room for mislynch, so lynch order is irrelevant from my point of view since I'm pretty set on who the wolves are. Only you dropping a shock with an unexpected confirm will shift me.

Originally Posted by OngBonga

Hoopy is my pick for today, not that I think it matters greatly.

The order doesn't matter, no, but the selection matters greatly. Do the wolves put down a wolf or a villager? That's the question.

TLR's Obama post suggested Dan (correct me if you want to, TLR-san).
Boog says Hoopy.

What says everyone else?

Dan and Hoopy are my top picks, I dont really care who we lynch first

My problem is the 3rd one, I need to reread this thread again but I think it is possible nightr gizmo is wolf #3

Originally Posted by BennyLaRue

I'd like to see everyone's pick for most likely wolf. Just one name. Who should we pick off first?

My top two are JKDS and Dan. If I had to pick one between them, I'd say JKDS because he seems a little more likely to be a wolf.

Yay i can speak normal like

Ong, your argument for flomo is bs. Last game he posts "I got a pm!" and never outs as the seer even when lynched. He doesnt like playing this game for long periods of time, and has often said that he doesnt want to live long in ww games. You're suprised hes asking to be shot and lynched? Thats exactly how flomo would play every game of ww in the history of ww and is how hes played forever.

He goes "arrroooo", then a few minutes later retracts it as an april fools joke...or he retracts it because his wolf buddies said he was going too far in trying to off himself.

@Benny: I will defend dan forever. The simple fact is, the wolves lost a wolf on day 1 due to fakeout. They know that boog was gone at that point. If dan was a wolf, boog opens up a non zero percent chance that the vig believes him and shoots dan in the face. Its silly to put a wolf, especially mr hero of last game dan, in the line of fire like that. It is much more likely that boog would name dan a wolf so as to get a good villager killed by vig or lynch.

As such, my wolves are Hoopy, Flomo, and Night gizmo. Because thats all thats left. Im more willing to believe invisibility cloak gizmo is a wolf, than dan is considering boogs look up.

Im most convinced of Hoopy. Flomo is my number 2, and i dont see how anyone thinks hes not wolfy.

Tlr you've repeatedly said how confident you are that I'm a wolf but you've offered no real evidence whatsoever. Is this just because I got pissy with you earlier? I'm sorry tlr, you, I and everybody else all know you're very good at werewolf, I take my comments back. Now please reassess me with an open mind.

Originally Posted by DanAronG

Tlr you've repeatedly said how confident you are that I'm a wolf but you've offered no real evidence whatsoever. Is this just because I got pissy with you earlier? I'm sorry tlr, you, I and everybody else all know you're very good at werewolf, I take my comments back. Now please reassess me with an open mind.

Thats not the only reason I am suspicious of you, and I have stated them a few times in this thread

1. Resorting to personal attacks when put under pressure is a wolfy behavior
2. Unlike JKDS I think that Boog mentioned you as a wolf in order to put you and him on both sides of the fence since he knew he is probably going to die sooner then later. JKDS point that the vig may have taken it at face value has some merit, but the general tone of the village was such that he got no creditibility as a seer so it was not a bug risk for the wolves
3. Your general tone in this game is that of a wolf IMO
4. Someone has to be the lost wolf, I thought it was BID and I was wrong, it may be Flomo but it is more likely that it is either you or JKDS and I am leaning more towards you at this point

That being said I am OK with going for Hoopy first

Knowing I'm not a wolf, the wolves are in the pool of JKDS, gizmo, flomo and hoopy.

Should we be looking at the lynch choices of those 4 and thinking about the strategy of the wolves as a group at this point and how they would distribute their accusations?

Originally Posted by DanAronG

Knowing I'm not a wolf, the wolves are in the pool of JKDS, gizmo, flomo and hoopy.

Should we be looking at the lynch choices of those 4 and thinking about the strategy of the wolves as a group at this point and how they would distribute their accusations?

Can you answer my question, pls? Your #1 is?

JKDS

Originally Posted by JKDS

@Benny: I will defend dan forever. The simple fact is, the wolves lost a wolf on day 1 due to fakeout. They know that boog was gone at that point. If dan was a wolf, boog opens up a non zero percent chance that the vig believes him and shoots dan in the face. Its silly to put a wolf, especially mr hero of last game dan, in the line of fire like that. It is much more likely that boog would name dan a wolf so as to get a good villager killed by vig or lynch.

This isn't a productive line of thinking. Consider the game vibe at the time Boog announced Dan as a wolf. Boog had no credibility and he was going to die.

As long as the chances of the move being perceived as evidence Dan WASN'T a wolf, as it seems to have impressed you, are greater than the chances the vig shoots him, that's why the wolves do it.

My top pick for a wolf is JKDS, second is Dan.

JKDS because his posts aren't full of solid logic like usual, Dan because he's being more aggressive in his posts which he's done before as a wolf.

Jkds is my #1 lynch for today.

Trying summarize the wolf candidate picks:

Hoopy: JKDS, Dan
Dan: JKDS
JKDS: Hoopy, Flomo, NG
NG: JKDS, Dan
Flomo: JKDS, Hoopy, Dan

We know there are 3 wolves in this group
Everyone but JKDS has JKDS as his top pick, this can mean one of two things
1. Wolves decided to push for a villager JKDS lynch FTW
2. Wolves think JKDS is the most likely lookup candidate and he is a wolf, so they are throwing him under the bus

I have reviewed some of the earlier days of the game, I have come across a tell that has always been correct in every game I played
lynch nightGizmo

I so wanna know what that tell is.

Originally Posted by JKDS

He goes "arrroooo", then a few minutes later retracts it as an april fools joke...or he retracts it because his wolf buddies said he was going too far in trying to off himself.

No, the april fool post was timestamped one minute later than the arooo, no time for discussion, he just did them both on his own back.

JKDS, people thought my read on drew was bs too, in fact I was the only person who thought he was a villager, until he was looking like getting strung up, when dan suddenly thinks he has villager cred all of a sudden.

I have an easier time believing gizmo can be a wolf, but he's still behind hoopy, JKDS and dan. I too am curious to know what TLR's read is, though I don't feel he's under any obligation to share that read unti 'rilla sets time. Benny is yet to clear or nail someone, so there's no hurry.

Originally Posted by DanAronG

I so wanna know what that tell is.

I went thru all of the posts by NightGizmo to see who he was quoting, other then the confirmed villagers there are only 3 times that he quotes someone who can be suspected as a wolf
Once Dan on day 1 (if dan is the lost wolf he was a villager at that point)
Once Flomo on a quote that is not really game related
Once JKDS

So I can totally see a case of Hoopy/NightGizmo/Dan as the 3 wolves

I hope you looked gizmo up benny.

Hoopy, ng, JKDS makes sense.

I really hope benny looked me up.

On phone, so won't be checking myself, but did ng ever have any of his own thoughts or suspicions? Or was he just agreeable?

Originally Posted by DanAronG

Hoopy, ng, JKDS makes sense.

I happen to agree here. If gizmo is a wolf, I drop dan from my list, not JKDS.

I just read NG's day 1 posts and he could easily be a wolf.
Almost every post is a quote, he agrees with just about everybody except lollz who calls him a wolf. He tries to derail the boog lynch with a late mattc vote.

He should have been posting more since he sits at computer a lot.

Originally Posted by DanAronG

Because there's no point. There's always a remote chance he's the seer, but it flies on the face of logical reasoning. So we leave him until tomorrow when his role is pretty much confirmed. Although dumb luck may fuck us there and its more likely than people may intuitively think.

I think I'm going change my #1 to this guy.

I don't get it.

I meant from the villages perspective, which is true. You guys couldn't know what I knew. There had to be a chance he was the seer or we'd always lynch him there and then.

Originally Posted by DanAronG

I don't get it.

I meant from the villages perspective, which is true. You guys couldn't know what I knew. There had to be a chance he was the seer or we'd always lynch him there and then.

Lynch danarong

You gonna elaborate on your fine detective work?

Originally Posted by DanAronG

I don't get it.

I meant from the villages perspective, which is true. You guys couldn't know what I knew. There had to be a chance he was the seer or we'd always lynch him there and then.

Care to explain Dan ?

Boog said his lookup was you and that you are a wolf.
If you are a villager then you should have no doubt that boog is not telling the truth. Resulting in him absolutely not being the seer.

That was #410 and Benny outed on #413.

Sorry, I should wait for Benny.
Rescind danarong

Dan is my #1 for today.

I still don't get it.

That was in response to ng saying "why don't we lynch boog" and after a collective decision had been made to wait a day before lynching boog as it would be proved one way or another.

I still don't see what you're getting at. The post makes sense. The village strategy regarding boog had already been discussed and agreed on. Why would I continue to tell people boog was a fake when I couldn't prove it at that point and it would be proven the next day.

And regardless of my roll I still knew boog was lying, as either I was his fellow wolf and therefore knew his ripe or I was a villager and therefore knew he was lying.

Are you suggesting I'm the lost wolf and therefore didn't know? Why would the wolves fake out as the seer and then name the person they are about to nom as a wolf? That would be stupid.

Originally Posted by flomo

I just read NG's day 1 posts and he could easily be a wolf.
Almost every post is a quote, he agrees with just about everybody except lollz who calls him a wolf. He tries to derail the boog lynch with a late mattc vote.

He should have been posting more since he sits at computer a lot.

My day 1 strategy was pretty simple and clearly laid out -- I wanted to lynch someone that wasn't providing any value to the village, because the low-value players get harder and harder to lynch as the days go by. Frankly, you're oversimplifying the evidence to twist it and prove your point. For example, choosing mattc over boog was a pretty obvious day 1 choice given my day-1 strategy.

Read the post in the context of the conversation. I wasn't giving my opinion, I was explaining the village strategy to a noob who didn't get it.

Originally Posted by DanAronG

That was in response to ng saying "why don't we lynch boog" and after a collective decision had been made to wait a day before lynching boog as it would be proved one way or another.

Originally Posted by DanAronG

Read the post in the context of the conversation. I wasn't giving my opinion, I was explaining the village strategy to a noob who didn't get it.

I didn't suggest lynching boog after he named a wolf. Are you confusing me with drew (!!!) or mixing up your lies?

Originally Posted by DanAronG

Are you suggesting I'm the lost wolf and therefore didn't know? Why would the wolves fake out as the seer and then name the person they are about to nom as a wolf? That would be stupid.

That would have made sense.... except this entire conversation took place after the lost wolf was converted and knew his fellow wolves

Post 250 - before boog even named me. It's the only village strategy.

Originally Posted by DanAronG

I've not read the thread, just the first few posts. But a few thoughts.

Boog is never the seer and we never lynch him today. I can't be assed to explain why on my phone.

He is either a wolf or the lone wolf. Both make perfect sense. More likely just a wolf.

If he's the lone wolf, we know nothing other than that.

If he's a regular wolf, the more likely, then who's getting nommed night one? We have a less dangerous field than usual, no gator, no rilla, no jv. It's an easy decision to go for a dangerous villager, so tlr, JKDS or benny got got last night. Add to this that any of them could be a wolf anyway and I think any would be a good lynch.

So let's lynch non-contributors first, aa they ruin the game on so many levels, and keep an eye on those three knowing that at least one is very likely a wolf.

Originally Posted by TLR

That would have made sense.... except this entire conversation took place after the lost wolf was converted and knew his fellow wolves

Then no matter my role, I still knew boog was a wolf, so this whole debate is pointless.

Originally Posted by BooG690

I can gladly bold any of flomo, bigred, or hoopy today. Flomo and bigred are getting a good amount of heat while hoopy seems to be getting none. This is peculiar given he's posted the same amount as, if not less than, the other two. It's rather telling that his name hasn't come up.

This is from Boog's day 2 before Benny outed - how likely do you think it is that he named 2 wolves out of the three names ? I would say it is highly unlikely and there is only one wolf in {Flomo, Hoopy}

Originally Posted by DanAronG

Read the post in the context of the conversation. I wasn't giving my opinion, I was explaining the village strategy to a noob who didn't get it.

I've read the conversation, and quite frankly I find it hard to believe that a villager who has been named as a wolf by a fake seer can say to the village that there remains a chance that fake seer is not fake. Had he named me as the wolf I would have told the village that I know he is fake because I'm a villager, dan didn't say this.

Flomo is actually going through the thread looking for wolf mistakes. I'll say it again, flomo is a villager.

Dan is lock wolf, hoopy is lock wolf, it's just between JKDS and gizmo as far as I can see. I think JKDS, TLR and flomo both think it could be gizmo, so this is tricky.

Originally Posted by DanAronG

Then no matter my role, I still knew boog was a wolf, so this whole debate is pointless.

Can you explain why did you not push hard for a boog lynch at this stage ? The strategy outlined was fine for a regular villager, but you had additional info that confirmed Boog as a wolf, why did you not push for his lynch?

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

then if boog is lying, how come there's no boog wagon?

You're right ng, it was bid, but switching his name for yours doesn't change the reason for it, ie a noob who didn't get the strategy having it explained to him.

Just because I know boog is lying doesn't mean I'm suddenly unable to understand the optimum strategy for the village.

I find anyone who can't understand this wolfy. The post makes complete sense when read in the context of the preceding post.

Originally Posted by TLR

Can you explain why did you not push hard for a boog lynch at this stage ? The strategy outlined was fine for a regular villager, but you had additional info that confirmed Boog as a wolf, why did you not push for his lynch?

Because it would be pointless. If I was anyone else I'd wait until the next day. There's no point of a me vs boog argument when it is proved the next day. Why on earth would the village ever lynch someone claiming to be the seer without evidence to the contrary when we knew the evidence would be coming the next day. The very idea of this is ridiculous. Why would we ever do that? Ever?

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