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  1. #226
    So wolves love the idea of a fast wagon, whiel also loving towncred for trying to stop it. Right.

    daven, bigred's wagon was two large when I complained, yes. Why don't you count how many people said they were willing to lynch him? I'm getting heat for recognising this meant he was likely villager? This is stupid, you're now the 3rd person to use this against me. Remember your wolf game daven where you nearly sneaked through then got gatored? How pissed off was I that jyms was getting lynched? How about boog? That's just one game where I can remember defending people who I think are villagers. Just because bigred's wagon was two large at the time, does not mean my reason for thinking he is villager is invalid. I'm not going to keep arguing this point. Me defending bigred should be considered null, because I definitely do it as villager, and probably wolf too. I don't expect towncred for it, but man it's a bit annoying getting read as wolf for it.

    gator, pretty sure I've nommed you n1 before, and you've always been n1 option whenever I'm discussing it in the den. You've had a good run into games as villager of recent, because wolves have twigged that your presense makes people paranoid. But you're still an early target as far as I'm concerned.
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    Ong rereads the thread, nothing makes sense to him.

    It's usually ong posts in the thread, nothing makes sense from him.
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    the village is better off having a Gator corpse strung up on dancing-wires with a recording playing Gators greatest hits in the background than being left to puzzle him out every game.
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  3. #228
    I was the one who spearheaded the BR wagon but I never claimed he wasn't a villager. In fact he was probably more a villager because the wolves weren't contacting him telling him to get in and post. I think starting games off going after inactives will solve future games allowing wolves to be inactive, hence the BR wagon.

    You keep talking about the bigred thing like it was village vs wolves, but your logic is flawed. We got more info on Day one than I think we have as a village in the last 3 games, and I think we lost all of them. Time will tell if it was a good idea,

    THe SDM stuff mentioned is very damaging to him as well. I am thinking we could be looking at 2 or 3 potential wolves already and starting wagons and seeing the defenses now are going to be very telling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donkbee View Post
    I guess I would lean towards bolding daven cuz he kinda looks like a wolf hiding in the shadows, but his quick vote of rilla and then switching to ong on day 1 makes me think he's not a wolf cuz don't wolves usually preplan what they're gonna do before they post?
    when i've been a wolf there has been a lot less of this pre-planning thing than people seem to think happens... so, although i like the vote of confidence it's unfortunately borne of flawed logic...

    i'm just another blind villager trying to find those who hunt at night
  5. #230
    Even more annoying is that jyms looks and sounds like a villager, but I still fucking hate that he lynched bigred day one while saying he had reason to think he's villager.
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  6. #231
    You keep talking about the bigred thing like it was village vs wolves, but your logic is flawed.
    My point is that for bigred to be a wolf, the other wolves just sat back and allowed him to get lynched. I don't see why they would do that to bigred, seeing as he often goes deep and would be bastard hard to read. I'm not suggesting it was village vs wolves, I'm suggesting the wolves either had a hand in it, or sat back and let it happen. Either way bigred looks villager for it. Of course I'm going to say this if it's what I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Me defending bigred should be considered null, because I definitely do it as villager, and probably wolf too. I don't expect towncred for it, but man it's a bit annoying getting read as wolf for it.
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    i sorta agree, but even without this you look like a wolf. I mean, really, Warpe flipping villager would make it more likely that SDM is wolf?!
  8. #233
    It made sense to me at the time. Bigred was obviously not a special, why wouldn't the wolves then try to wagon warpe, who could be? Warpe being wolf would explain why SDM wolf might have hammered bigred, but warpe being villager means for SDM to be a wolf, he chose to hammer a non-special instead of allowing another option to get lynched.

    But the afk lie stinks, so I realise this idea is looking flawed. Since when is my thought process being flawed a concern?
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  9. #234
    daven is almost certainly a villager. I really don't think he waits so long to start swinging for people if he's a wolf, because doing so will look different to his standard. daven comes across as someone who does not care how he is perceived, and who's looking for wolves. Screams villager.

    jyms is bending my head right now. I don't think he posts this strong as a wolf, but I can't let this bigred vote go. I'm am very much torn on him.

    gator dumping his somewhat solid attack on SDM to vote for me on the basis of my comment about him being an early target, this is strange and I'm starting to worry about his motives. He's caught SDM outright lying to hammer a villager, while at worst I have a bad memory. Why would I lie and say gator is often early kill if he isn't? If I'm wrong, then it's obviously my poor memory. There's little wolf motivation in making such a lie. But SDM's lie oozes wolf motivation. Yet gator has shifted onto me. Certainly worthy of note.
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  10. #235
    There wasn't going to be any other vote besides bigred so SDM's vote was a non event. I don't think he is a wolf simply because of that, but because of the entire body of work.
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  11. #236
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    It made sense to me at the time. Bigred was obviously not a special, why wouldn't the wolves then try to wagon warpe, who could be?
    You should know that there is no way the wolves would try to sway from Bigred to Warpe as a group. It would be mass suicide by the end of the game.
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  12. #237
    This....
    Quote Originally Posted by GatorJH View Post
    There wasn't going to be any other vote besides bigred so SDM's vote was a non event. I don't think he is a wolf simply because of that, but because of the entire body of work.
    Was in response to this...

    Quote Originally Posted by daven View Post
    i disagree with your logic. Warpe flipping village does not make SDM likely villager.. Wolves benefit from closing the lynch on bigred and getting the freeroll on a mod-kill.
    Before I saw there was a page 4.
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  13. #238
    You should know that there is no way the wolves would try to sway from Bigred to Warpe as a group. It would be mass suicide by the end of the game.
    Not blatantly, but my thinking is that wolves would wait to see what the village did, rather than snap hammer bigred after it becomes clear he's a nobody. The point someone made (probably you) about the wolves wanting bigred dead so they can take the free kill in warpe is a better argument as to why SDM wolf would hammer bigred there, that didn't occur to me at the time. My logic behind thinking SDM is a villager for the bigred hammer is flawed, I can accept that. What I'm struggling with is why you're on me instead of SDM, seeing as it's you who pointed out SDM lied to us about being afk. Do you really have more faith that ong spazzing is wolfier than SDM lying?
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  14. #239
    Quote Originally Posted by GatorJH View Post
    He has also posted again today which means he wasn't really going anywhere just wanted an alibi for not posting much.
    This is sad. I say I'll be gone for 48 hours and am only gone for about a day instead because of RL reasons. I wanted to cover myself in case I couldn't be online.

    His post once Wuf confirms Bigred was a villager and the first one scream SDM trying too hard to look like a villager.
    Level 0 thinking.

    There is absolutely no way that Gator's play is this sloppy unless he's trying to intentionally look like he's on the wrong track in order to last into the endgame.

    My primary wolf suspects are still gator and rilla. I'm going to go back on gator now. If he turns up villager I will gladly self-lynch tomorrow to satisfy the skeptics.

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  15. #240
    I'm not too fond of gator's case against SDM. If SDM was a wolf he would probably have less of these inconsistencies, it may sound convincing but usually a wolf is more careful.
  16. #241
    Quote Originally Posted by daven View Post
    sdm looks wolf for closing the wagon when bigred had just shown up and there was still a chance that the wagon could be switched to the only remaining inactive = warpe.
    Obviously the wolves prefer to get a villager mod-kill overnight. SDM?
    SDM put in the hammer on Bigred with, what, 5 minutes to go before the deadline? There was literally no chance of a switch at that point.
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  17. #242
    Can we get a VC? I've got no idea where we're at
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  18. #243
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    gator's point about SDM is pretty sharp. Emerging to hammer a villager when he said he'd be afk is dodgy as hell, and is more than enough to kill the villager lean I gave him for hammering someone who was obviously not special. gator is wolfhunting here, and while this doesn't tell us if he's wolf or villager, it certainly shows us why we shouldn't kill him off early out of paranoia. Even if he's a wolf, he'll be an asset to us, at least to begin with, simply because he has to be to stay incognito. If gator is a wolf, I expect SDM to be a wolf that gator is ruthlessly throwing under the bus before anyone else picks up on his afk lie. And if gator is a villager, then his SDM attack is sincere.

    So yeah I can follow gator's lead here...

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  19. #244
    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    SDM put in the hammer on Bigred with, what, 5 minutes to go before the deadline? There was literally no chance of a switch at that point.
    people usually log in around deadline time though and its not like 10 votes would have been needed , it would only need 4 or 5 people to switch +big red and SDM and warpe would have been the vote leader.
  20. #245
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    Quote Originally Posted by daven View Post
    this is the first post from 'rilla that made me think something is up...
    I also don't see gator being lynched on day 1, so startign this wagon and staying would be a good way for a wolf to avoid providing any day 1 tells.
    rilla gave an explanation (#201) for why he went after Gator early on. Though it's also a decent way to avoid saying much it draws attention right?

    Your points on Ong are interesting, but I think he'd call out rilla's opening post as a villager as well. He has seemed more random so far this game though, more like he's feeding off other people rather than thinking for himself.
    Quote Originally Posted by daven View Post
    sdm looks wolf for closing the wagon when bigred had just shown up and there was still a chance that the wagon could be switched to the only remaining inactive = warpe.
    Obviously the wolves prefer to get a villager mod-kill overnight. SDM?
    Quote Originally Posted by daven View Post
    i disagree with your logic. Warpe flipping village does not make SDM likely villager.. Wolves benefit from closing the lynch on bigred and getting the freeroll on a mod-kill.
    From what I've seen so far SDM could definitely close the day as a wolf.
  21. #246
    4 - Gator (JV, rong, luco, SDM)

    3 - Ong (jyms, daven, Gator)

    1 - rilla, jyms, SDM
  22. #247
    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    people usually log in around deadline time though and its not like 10 votes would have been needed , it would only need 4 or 5 people to switch +big red and SDM and warpe would have been the vote leader.
    Around 90 minutes before the deadline I asked if anyone was around and if they wanted to switch. When I logged off about an hour later there were crickets. I stand by my statement. I could make the argument that SDM's vote is wolfy because he didn't want the day to end with him having a no-vote, but I won't make the argument that he did it to stop a switch to warpe.
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  23. #248
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopy View Post
    4 - Gator (JV, rong, luco, SDM)

    3 - Ong (jyms, daven, Gator)

    1 - rilla, jyms, SDM
    Thanks Hoopy

    Hey guys, remember how last game we lynched our top poster on D2 and she flipped village? Good times, good times. Gator and ong are both topping the post count this game -out of the two I think ong has a higher chance of wolfin from what I've seen so far, but both of them are here and very much contributing. Regardless of alignment that's ultimately good for the village. Same with Rilla and Jyms.

    I think TLR could be wolfin. He has whispers of analysis...

    Quote Originally Posted by TLR View Post
    Couple of things are interesting so far
    1 JV starting a quick wagon. Especially after his post on day 1
    2 how fast the wagon took off, I read it as half the village is terrified of losing to Gator as wolf again
    3 rillas quick attack on Gator out of the blue in day 1
    4 Keith behavior which is weird even by Keith standard, assuming that on this lineup you are most the center of attention for the s is strange to say the least
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    Fucking iPhone, meant to say that Keith assumption that he will be the center of attention for the specials is strange
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    Don't sense a wolfy vibe from Gator so far
    JV and rilla lead the sus
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    ...but there's not a lot of depth to it. I think he's trying to look involved instead of actually hunting.

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  24. #249
    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    people usually log in around deadline time though and its not like 10 votes would have been needed , it would only need 4 or 5 people to switch +big red and SDM and warpe would have been the vote leader.
    Keith is playing low content. If you're a villager, you're going to get nommed because the wolves will think you are a special that's laying low. Start posting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luco
    ...but there's not a lot of depth to it. I think he's trying to look involved instead of actually hunting.
    Of course there isn't a lot of depth because it's still early in the game. TLR is a suspect of mine but nothing like rilla or gator.

    Luco jumping off the gator bandwagon for no real reason stinks of wolf. They probably panicked in the den and are subtly trying to change the target of today's lynch. Gator being bandwagoned has nothing to do with his post count and more to do with his wolfy behavior.

    The vig should hold his fire tonight. It's a mathematical advantage for the village for the vig to fire every time in a game without a seer, but when the seer is alive, I think he is much more valuable because he can out villagers and wolves at the end of the game for a mathematical elimination of the wolves.
  25. #250
    Quote Originally Posted by StillDeadMoney View Post
    Luco jumping off the gator bandwagon for no real reason stinks of wolf. They probably panicked in the den and are subtly trying to change the target of today's lynch. Gator being bandwagoned has nothing to do with his post count and more to do with his wolfy behavior.
    If I did roll wolf again (which I didn't btw) do you really think the wolves would go out of their way to save me this early in the game. I doubt it.
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  26. #251
    We need to hear more from Rilla and Courtie.
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  27. #252
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR View Post
    Veteran line up, should in an interesting game

    I have not played in a while, will review the last 2-3 games over the weekend, but if BID is still as bad as I remember I think its an easy day 1 lynch
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR View Post
    4 Keith behavior which is weird even by Keith standard, assuming that on this lineup you are most the center of attention for the s is strange to say the least
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR
    Fucking iPhone, meant to say that Keith assumption that he will be the center of attention for the specials is strange

    So TLR said that he was going to review the last couple of games over the weekend. If he had reviewed the last game he'd understand the reasoning I gave because wolves are going to stoke suspicion about me and villagers are going to be suspicious of me and could cause seer to look me up. why would i think i would be centre of attention for specials (plural) . i never said that . i just said that vig can shoot me and guarantee missing a special and seer needn't bother wasting a lookup on me. Looks like TLR is another person caught saying they were going to do something and didn't actually do what they said they were going to do.

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  28. #253
    post 1
    1 even night vig that can't save bullets and starts firing on Night 2
    wording implies that the vig has to fire on each even night otherwise it would have a qualifier in it such as can start firing especially when you take into account what wuf said in he sign up thread
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    They kill outed vigs because they're confirmed players

    Vig is personally my favorite role because it basically forces the player to be a hero or a dunce. A vig who accidentally kills two villagers and the seer brings so much joy to my heart


    so perhaps wuf can confirm ....can the vig not shoot or is he forced to shoot on each even night.
  29. #254
    Fuck it. I'm all for the vig taking the shot because if I was the vig I'd be shooting. What's teh point in pulling a special and not using it. Have fun, rip one off of Ong, SDM or any other suspect we have
  30. #255
    I would think the Vig can choose to NOT shoot, but would lose the bullet for that night and would then have to wait until night 4 to shoot.

    As for whether the Vig shoots or not I think the odds of hitting a wolf or non-special are much greater than it would be in hitting seer or angel so I am not sure I agree with the analysis. PS - Please don't shoot me.

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  31. #256
    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    You can't possibly believe this...
    Have you ever seen gator as a wolf? Ruthless is definitely a word I would use to describe him. I learned that in my first ever game here. If SDM is a lying wolf with gator, then absolutely gator would want to be the first to expose it. So yeah I totally think this is viable.
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  32. #257
    Based on the stances they are taking, one of Gator, TLR and Jyms is going to be a wolf. Perhaps two but not all three.
  33. #258
    Quote Originally Posted by jackvance View Post
    Based on the stances they are taking, one of Gator, TLR and Jyms is going to be a wolf. Perhaps two but not all three.
    Wow, Shot in the dark or what?

    I haven't really looked at TLR much, he usually dies by the wolves on night one or two anyway, and I know I am not a wolf. Gator is 98% town so to group us together is really reaching in my books.
  34. #259
    Quote Originally Posted by jyms View Post
    Wow, Shot in the dark or what?

    I haven't really looked at TLR much, he usually dies by the wolves on night one or two anyway, and I know I am not a wolf. Gator is 98% town so to group us together is really reaching in my books.
    Why are you so certain Gator is a villager? That's the main thing I don't understand about the stance you are taking.

    My reasoning for the above is fairly simple though. Gator got some quick votes going so the wolves will have responded to that in some way. Whether Gator is a wolf or villager we can expect the wolves to have taken different stances. Some not responded, some being for his lynch (by voting or talk) and some being against it.
  35. #260
    Quote Originally Posted by jackvance View Post
    My reasoning for the above is fairly simple though. Gator got some quick votes going so the wolves will have responded to that in some way. Whether Gator is a wolf or villager we can expect the wolves to have taken different stances. Some not responded, some being for his lynch (by voting or talk) and some being against it.
    Based on this logic you would be a good wolf candidate because you got some quick votes going as well.
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  36. #261
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  37. #262
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Have you ever seen gator as a wolf? Ruthless is definitely a word I would use to describe him. I learned that in my first ever game here. If SDM is a lying wolf with gator, then absolutely gator would want to be the first to expose it. So yeah I totally think this is viable.
    I've been in the last four games, ong. Gator was wolf in all of them. I was a wolf in one of them with him. So yes, I've seen gator wolf and no, I would not call him ruthless.

    Let me show you where I'm having trouble.

    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    wtf I agree with SDM already.

    So if gator draws wolf again, I guarantee the first thing he'll say in the wolf den is something like "fuck's sake not again, just throw me under the bus". It was near enough to that effect last game iirc. So rilla's comment does strike me as alarming. Gator is a good villager, he's often nommed early by wolves because he's a threat, rilla should know this so yeah not impressed with him already.
    ^ Your first post (#8). So, gatorwolf would ask to be thrown under the bus. Post #150:

    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    gator seems relaxed. Would he be relaxed if he binked wolf again? Probably not. Would he act relaxed? Yup. gator is not the kind of guy who will shit on his buddies because he didn't want to be a wolf. He'll do his best. So I'm not happy to dismiss gator as villager because he isn't raging all over the thread. He's too hard to read on d1, so I'm not going to try.
    So Gatorwolf is a good guy won't shit on his buddies and will do his best. Post#216:

    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    gator's point about SDM is pretty sharp. Emerging to hammer a villager when he said he'd be afk is dodgy as hell, and is more than enough to kill the villager lean I gave him for hammering someone who was obviously not special. gator is wolfhunting here, and while this doesn't tell us if he's wolf or villager, it certainly shows us why we shouldn't kill him off early out of paranoia. Even if he's a wolf, he'll be an asset to us, at least to begin with, simply because he has to be to stay incognito. If gator is a wolf, I expect SDM to be a wolf that gator is ruthlessly throwing under the bus before anyone else picks up on his afk lie. And if gator is a villager, then his SDM attack is sincere.

    So yeah I can follow gator's lead here...

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    So gator is ruthlessly throwing his buddy under the bus before someone else does.

    I thought gatorwolf didn't want to play (#8)? I thought he wouldn't shit on his buddies (#150)? Your latest post doesn't seem congruent with your earlier ones, which then makes me wonder - are you just making shit up as you go along?
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  38. #263
    are you just making shit up as you go along?
    Yes luco.

    Looking at the den from last game, gator didn't ask to be thrown under the bus, but he did express annoyance. If I'm a wolf who is going to make such claims, then I'm actually going to check what he said first to make sure I'm not setting myself up for accusations of making shit up as I go along. I'm posting what I think at the time of posting without caring how if it's accurate or how it's perceived. Cheers luco, you found a villager tell.

    Gator would not shit on his buddies. By that I mean he would not play deliberately suboptimal because I think he's a nice guy who will not want to leave his buddies at a disadvantage. He will make the effort, even if he doesn't want to. I might be wrong there, I don't know gator personally obviously, but it's what I think based on chatting to him in the den and the way he addresses people in the thread. He's rarely rude.

    And gator is very much a ruthless wolf. He will seem very happy in the game thread to dispose of his buddies if they are making mistakes. His den comments might paint a different picture, but he is most certainly ruthless.

    I do not consider throwing a buddy under the bus to be shitting on him, so I don't agree that my comments are inconsitent.
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  39. #264
    you two cut it out and look for wolves. I am just a villager.
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  40. #265
    Quote Originally Posted by StillDeadMoney View Post
    Keith is playing low content. If you're a villager, you're going to get nommed because the wolves will think you are a special that's laying low. Start posting.
    .
    how many specials trying to lay low ask to be shot to protect the specials from the vig. you now know that i didn't do that as the Vig as warpe was the |Vig at that time.Why are the wolves going to eat someone who is likely to get shot.You deductive powers are in a league of their own .
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackvance View Post
    Why are you so certain Gator is a villager? That's the main thing I don't understand about the stance you are taking.
    This makes me feel like jyms is a wolf who knows gator is a villager.
  42. #267
    Quote Originally Posted by GatorJH View Post
    you two cut it out and look for wolves. I am just a villager.
    gator, why is your vote on me and not SDM? You haven't asnwered that yet.
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    jyms deliberately ignored the question and posted about something else too. Me thinks it's because he can't come up with evidence to support his 98% feeling.
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    I'd like to re-iterate that I'm the only one on the jyms wagon and would love for others to join. I need to prove my soul read binking one time!
  45. #270
    I guess my vote on Rilla doesn't have him too concerned, since he's not really responding. And since my vote is basically wasted right now (I'm the only one on rilla?), I'll move on to my next likely choice -- SDM.

    I fully agree with Gator's argument about SDMs "I'll be away" post:

    Quote Originally Posted by StillDeadMoney View Post
    I'm going to be away for a couple days and won't be able to respond to any accusations. I won't be fake-outing as anything in this game and instead try to keep a low profile. I'll try to live as long as I can to help the village win.
    The village doesn't win by having villagers that focus on living as long as they can. The village wins when villagers contribute to catching wolves. You shouldn't need to announce that you won't fake-out -- either you fake-out and you're a wolf or you fake-out and you're a horrible villager.

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    Some people are saying that Keith looks like a wolf. I'll make my decision about that tomorrow.
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    I'll wagon but can change my vote after I see a defense.
    It's always suspicious to me when players make promises to do things in the future. It just sounds like SDM is trying to be active without really doing much. I'm not explaining this well, but regardless -- these posts just add to my suspicion.

    Quote Originally Posted by StillDeadMoney View Post
    Let's get a competing bandwagon going to see how the wolves react.
    Sounds insincere -- like he's looking for a different way to announce, "Hey guys, I'm not a wolf!"

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    NightGizmo makes a compelling argument against SDM.

    And since it looks like my jyms vote is futile...

    lynch sdm
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    Oh -- it's also strange that SDM keeps telling specials what to do. It's not like he's offering up any discussion, he's just dictating that specials have to do such and such:

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    But the seer should scan one of my wolf suspects: rilla, gator, and keith.
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    Any seer that doesn't scan you tonight is a bad player. Scanning you would help figure out what's going on with rilla and gator as an added bonus.[/COLOR]
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    The vig should hold his fire tonight. It's a mathematical advantage for the village for the vig to fire every time in a game without a seer, but when the seer is alive, I think he is much more valuable because he can out villagers and wolves at the end of the game for a mathematical elimination of the wolves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    lynch bigred
    then 3hrs later bigred checked in:
    Quote Originally Posted by bigred View Post
    Oops! Forgot about this one. No worries guys. I'm just a villager and probably a good day 1 kill.
    20 minutes later
    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    Hey bigred, thanks for stopping by. Bit too close to the deadline though
    10 minutes later
    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    Anyone else online wanna switch to warpe? He's the only one facing modkill now
    luco, why didn't you rescind your bigred vote and move it to warpe when you first realised we were going to end up two down due to mod-kill. You talked about moving things to warpe, but didn't start the party - instead leaving bigred on what i think was lynch-1. That doesn't seem like a mistake you would make as a villager.
    I think you're a wolf with ong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luco View Post
    Around 90 minutes before the deadline I asked if anyone was around and if they wanted to switch. When I logged off about an hour later there were crickets. I stand by my statement. I could make the argument that SDM's vote is wolfy because he didn't want the day to end with him having a no-vote, but I won't make the argument that he did it to stop a switch to warpe.
    why didn't you start the warpe wagon rather than leaving your vote on bigred?
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    Quote Originally Posted by daven View Post
    then 3hrs later bigred checked in:

    20 minutes later

    10 minutes later


    luco, why didn't you rescind your bigred vote and move it to warpe when you first realised we were going to end up two down due to mod-kill. You talked about moving things to warpe, but didn't start the party - instead leaving bigred on what i think was lynch-1. That doesn't seem like a mistake you would make as a villager.
    I think you're a wolf with ong.


    why didn't you start the warpe wagon rather than leaving your vote on bigred?
    Daven I made myself available for an hour, I was even watching the user list to see if someone logged in who could switch with me. bigred needed like 5 to move to save him and with the utter lack of activity at the end of d1 it made no difference if I switched or not if nobody was there with me.
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  50. #275
    There is no sense in watching the user list. There are 7 people logged in right now and only 2 are visible. Most have their profile hidden including you. People like me have an FTR tab open for hours without looking at it or the computer.

    And yes drew, I am avoiding questions. Nothing says I am required to answer anything at this time. Although I usually skip your posts because they always confuse me and you always look wolfy. All I care about is the wagons that are on the go now. I will go back and look at today and yesterday when I have more information, not speculation
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    Quote Originally Posted by jyms View Post
    And yes drew, I am avoiding questions. Nothing says I am required to answer anything at this time.
    Optimal villager strategy says otherwise.
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    Tell me what optimal villager strat looks like to you and the result?
  53. #278
    Rilla started day one with a bang and then totally disappeared

    CBee is pretty much MIA, From what I recall when I did play with her years ago she was much more active, I think there is a decent chance she is playing under the radar wol


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    Quote Originally Posted by BankItDrew View Post
    NightGizmo makes a compelling argument against SDM.

    And since it looks like my jyms vote is futile...

    lynch sdm
    this post coming only 3 minutes after a long post from NG, it seems that BID was looking for a bandwagon to join



    Quote Originally Posted by NightGizmo View Post
    I guess my vote on Rilla doesn't have him too concerned, since he's not really responding. And since my vote is basically wasted right now (I'm the only one on rilla?), I'll move on to my next likely choice -- SDM.

    I fully agree with Gator's argument about SDMs "I'll be away" post:



    The village doesn't win by having villagers that focus on living as long as they can. The village wins when villagers contribute to catching wolves. You shouldn't need to announce that you won't fake-out -- either you fake-out and you're a wolf or you fake-out and you're a horrible villager.





    It's always suspicious to me when players make promises to do things in the future. It just sounds like SDM is trying to be active without really doing much. I'm not explaining this well, but regardless -- these posts just add to my suspicion.



    Sounds insincere -- like he's looking for a different way to announce, "Hey guys, I'm not a wolf!"

    lynch SDM
    ​lynch BID


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    Quote Originally Posted by jyms View Post
    Tell me what optimal villager strat looks like to you and the result?
    Communicating as much as possible to maximize for information to be read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TLR View Post
    this post coming only 3 minutes after a long post from NG, it seems that BID was looking for a bandwagon to join
    Replying 3 minutes after: I'm refreshing the page frequently because WW is my priority during this time of day.
    Looking for another bandwagon to join: Yep. I mentioned why too. Did you miss that part?
  57. #282
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    gator, why is your vote on me and not SDM? You haven't asnwered that yet.
    It was mostly because I thought your day 1 posts were too over the top in trying to help villagers (myself and bigred) instead of driving good conversation. I do however think your recent posts are much better and agree that there is a better case for SDM right now.

    rescind Ong, lynch SDM
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  58. #283
    if vig chooses to not shoot, the bullet is lost
  59. #284
    Quote Originally Posted by BankItDrew View Post
    Replying 3 minutes after: I'm refreshing the page frequently because WW is my priority during this time of day.
    Looking for another bandwagon to join: Yep. I mentioned why too. Did you miss that part?
    Yes, you joined the bandwagon because you think NG made good arguments, not really a thought out reason
  60. #285
    Day 2 ends at 6PM PST tomorrow, so around 28 hours and 15 minutes from now
  61. #286
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR View Post
    Yes, you joined the bandwagon because you think NG made good arguments, not really a thought out reason
    Why is this of note to you but not me jumping on gator's SDM case today?
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    ongies gonna ong
  62. #287
    TLR doesnt seem to be going anywhere

    rescind

    lynch sdm
  63. #288
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Why is this of note to you but not me jumping on gator's SDM case today?
    Reason 1 is timing, BID post was about 3 minutes after NG, youra was a n hour later or so if I recall correctly
    Reason 2 is that you have posted enough content so far that puts you on my likely villager list


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    Quote Originally Posted by TLR View Post
    Rilla started day one with a bang and then totally disappeared

    CBee is pretty much MIA, From what I recall when I did play with her years ago she was much more active, I think there is a decent chance she is playing under the radar wol
    As opposed to stating with a whimper and disappearing.

    I endorse lynching both OB and SDM.

    OB has been a strong source of white noise through out the thread and SDM is an oddity who demands attention and tries to force himself to be the fulcrum in whatever scheme he's hatched up.

    I'd also like to put forward rong as a lynch candidate. He has a way of floating on top of the conversation and injecting his comments on top of the flow. His one post about Gator pacifying me was spot on but my experience with how Gator deals with me when he's a wolf has an entirely different feel to it. I never felt rebuked.

    Other than that post he's had one standard reads dump and nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TLR View Post
    Reason 1 is timing, BID post was about 3 minutes after NG, youra was a n hour later or so if I recall correctly
    Reason 2 is that you have posted enough content so far that puts you on my likely villager list
    Hey TLR, what do you think of the field?
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    And the only reason my name keeps coming up is because I was first to post and so everyone's first suspicion. And that initial wave hasn't yet run its course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StillDeadMoney View Post
    The vig should hold his fire tonight. It's a mathematical advantage for the village for the vig to fire every time in a game without a seer, but when the seer is alive, I think he is much more valuable because he can out villagers and wolves at the end of the game for a mathematical elimination of the wolves.
    BTW this is total nonsense, vig cannot accumulate bullets or delay shots


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    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    Hey TLR, what do you think of the field?
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    I think it is a tough field, so I dont expect the wolves to make too many mistakes early on

    My suspect list in no particular order
    BID
    Rilla
    CB
    JV
    Keith
    SDM


  69. #294
    That's actually a pretty solid list IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TLR View Post
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    I think it is a tough field, so I dont expect the wolves to make too many mistakes early on

    My suspect list in no particular order
    BID
    Rilla
    CB
    JV
    Keith
    SDM
    Ong
  71. #296
    TLR , did you read up the last couple of games at the weekend?
  72. #297
    Quote Originally Posted by jyms View Post
    Wow, Shot in the dark or what?

    I haven't really looked at TLR much, he usually dies by the wolves on night one or two anyway, and I know I am not a wolf. Gator is 98% town so to group us together is really reaching in my books.
    I've got the same question as JV, how can you be sure Gator is a villager?
    Quote Originally Posted by jackvance View Post
    Why are you so certain Gator is a villager? That's the main thing I don't understand about the stance you are taking.

    My reasoning for the above is fairly simple though. Gator got some quick votes going so the wolves will have responded to that in some way. Whether Gator is a wolf or villager we can expect the wolves to have taken different stances. Some not responded, some being for his lynch (by voting or talk) and some being against it.
    Agree with this to an extent, hence why I think the 4 quick votes (can't remember who) on Gator aren't all going to be wolves.

    JV what do you think of luco?
  73. #298
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR View Post
    BTW this is total nonsense, vig cannot accumulate bullets or delay shots
    No it's not. It's math. Every game day, the wolves kill a villager 100% of the time and the villagers kill 1 person. When there's a vig, the village gets the equivalent of an extra shot against the wolves.
  74. #299
    Can we get a fresh vote count wufmod?
    It's always suspicious to me when players make promises to do things in the future. It just sounds like SDM is trying to be active without really doing much. I'm not explaining this well, but regardless -- these posts just add to my suspicion.
    [/QUOTE]
    Good point about promises to do things being wolfy, it's an easy way to increase postcount and not be labelled as 'quiet'. Not sure that SDM has been doing exactly that though.
  75. #300
    Does anyone else notice how quickly the wolves maneuvered to get me on the lynch list when Gator was in danger of being lynched quickly? I bet there was a conversation in the wolf den where they decided that they wanted to bring me close to being lynched so that I can "fake out" as something instead of having to take the chance of killing me at night. They wanted to pressure me so that I provide more information and try to save gator at the same time.

    Killing villagers that are doing a lot of talking is an extremely suboptimal strategy. Later in the game, you'll be able to spot inconsistencies with votes and chatter, which means my role will be transparent (either as a wolf or on the village's side). Players like Keith and Rilla are putting in their token amount. TLR is skating by with almost nothing. Why aren't they under the gun instead?

    It looks to me like the wolves are making an end run to keep Gator alive. I'm 3 votes away from being lynched while Gator is still at 4.

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