Resistance - Rebel Uprising

Yes and no.

I understand what you are saying, but if you are a spy, if you and another spy end up on the same mission, it's obvious who should vote, so I'm sticking with you as a no go area for now.

Originally Posted by rong

Yes and no.

I understand what you are saying, but if you are a spy, if you and another spy end up on the same mission, it's obvious who should vote, so I'm sticking with you as a no go area for now.

you guys are making stuff up, it is not obvious. it's still not even relevant

it is you guys talking about spy strategy that is providing any sort of actual way for them to figure out how to get tricky. that's one of the flaws of this game, if the spies have any semblance of a cohesive strategy at any point, they win. so on repeat plays, they would generally do the same type of thing and always win

but it's still irrelevant since we know im not a spy since if i was, i was the only one trying to get that mission done.

you guys are trying to have it both ways. you're saying on one hand im communicating with the spies in ways they understand, BUT THEN youre claiming an antithetical position in that they're not understanding my messaging by not following my lead.

my spies at this moment are

lolz bid rilla jv

this team makes a lot of sense to me

rilla, they're onto us!

DanA, I wish you would announce your name change.

4 yay
3 nay

I'll extend time limit due to thread being coosed for long period.

nay

FYI, the vote counts for the failed mission:

Yay: Boog, NightGizmo, Jackvance, Lolzzz, Wuf, Rilla
Nay: JKDS, Ong, Dan

For this mission:

Yay: JKDS, Dan, Ong, Lolzzz, NightGizmo
Nay: Wuf, Rilla, BID, Boog

I don't see a pattern here, but thought it was worth posting in case anyone else sees anything.

yay

Now that it's being discussed, the voting thing with 2 or more spies on the mission is basically what I referred to in one of my first posts as something I didn't want to discuss b/c it could help the spies. Basically this is our first game and spies can try to telegraph a voting pattern (or it could be incidental), but after this game it is perfectly possible someone posts a voting strategy for spies if multiple. Not gonna say what but it would be much easier for the spies that way. (the rebels can also use this to try to piece together who the spies are but this is imo much harder because of all the uncertainty than the advantage for the spies to not slip up) Anyway not super relevant to THIS game but just wanted to mention it.

And I see my vote is last one missing. If I vote yay the mission goes through, if I vote nay it's all up to anyone switching. Kinda difficult with all the back and forth discussion, but I don't wanna drag it out too much, it is already taking long. i think this mission is fine, and I if I nay it i need to make the next one, so eh, gonna vote:
yay

I count 6 for yay and 4 for nay. I need to check that I didn't give someone two votes etc.

Is it time for a new werewolf yet?

Vote passed. 1 failure required for mission failure. Send me pms.


Boog690
JKDS
Jackvance
NightGizmo

Boog, Jkds, jackvance, and night gizmo partied extremely late and slept through the mission. Without anyone to screw it up, the mission succeeded!

Rebels 1
Imperials 1

Jackvance. Your choosing a mission of 4 individuals with 1 failure required for mission failure. Pm me your candidates.

You're*

Also. Sorry for lack of story. Can't access ftr from client and doing this on phone.

The famous napping squadron back in action?

Jackvance proposes:


Boog, Jkds, jackvance, nightgizmo for the mission

Originally Posted by NightGizmo

For this mission:

Yay: JKDS, Dan, Ong, Lolzzz, NightGizmo
Nay: Wuf, Rilla, BID, Boog

Well thats weird. Wuf, Rilla, and BID nayed the successful mission. Ong initially nayed as well. Its like, theyre all spies or something. Who'd of guessed???

yay

For a fifth on the next mission, our options should be between lolzz and Dan. Wuf, RIlla, BID, and ong are all super suspicious at this point.

If we had no spies on this mission, then the spies cant win no matter who we choose (cuz they need 2 failure votes when we pick 5). If we had 2 spies that fucked up, theres a chance lolzzz or dan is a spy and they may fuck up again.

The only time we really get into trouble is if we had only 1 spy on this mission, which can make sense but likely isnt the case.

I don't see how there's any spies on this/last mission, there was no need to get fancy. I think we won.

Oh yeah, durrr, there could be two.

I vote for dan as the fifth

yay

I still think lolzzz is easily a spy, so I wouldn't put him on any future teams. It's highly likely that Rilla is the spy from mission 1, and he proposed teams that both included lolzzz, and his first team had 3 members from mission 2 + lolzzz. So unless there were somehow spies on this last mission, Rilla-spy tried to load that team with one lolzzz-spy.

I think Ong is a good pick for a fifth. He voted against the failed mission 1 and voted for the successful mission 2. I wouldn't really count his first nay on mission 2 -- it shouldn't be a huge strike against him that he changed his mind. JKDS -- it's not exactly fair to immediately exclude Ong because he changed his mind -- that's what you did at the very beginning of day 1.

This is all assuming tonight's mission succeeds, btw.

I think we got this that is why I made the same team.

yay

Originally Posted by JKDS

The only time we really get into trouble is if we had only 1 spy on this mission, which can make sense but likely isnt the case.

Umm... isn't this situation impossible? If there was one spy on the mission, he would *know* he's the only spy and would never vote for a mission success.

Also -- dan hasn't voted yay yet, even though he's posted 3 times already. Somewhat suspicious, imo.

Hm why are you talking about the 5th to add? If this mission succeeds (probably), doesn't matter who we add as they need 2 fail votes for mission 4+5. And if the mission fails, we need to re-evaluate everything anyway.

Originally Posted by jackvance

Hm why are you talking about the 5th to add? If this mission succeeds (probably), doesn't matter who we add as they need 2 fail votes for mission 4+5. And if the mission fails, we need to re-evaluate everything anyway.

Oh... Well look at that! I didn't actually check the rules, I thought it was 5 players on the mission and 1 failure vote needed. You're right, if tonight passes then we can just add anybody.

I didn't vote as I assumed we'd want to chat about stuff first. I mean Jesus, we already spend most of the game with the thread locked.

And it's not suspicious because this mission always goes ahead.

Originally Posted by jackvance

Hm why are you talking about the 5th to add? If this mission succeeds (probably), doesn't matter who we add as they need 2 fail votes for mission 4+5. And if the mission fails, we need to re-evaluate everything anyway.

Theres no reason not to talk about it now.

I mean, we already know the possible outcomes, nothings gonna change. No one can die so we're working with the same parameters now as we would the next day. Theres no reason then to not discuss these outcomes.

@gizmo: ya i see that about lolzzz now. With ong, ive said what ive thought about him in other posts. If it comes down to it, id say Dan>Ong>lolzzz in terms of whos most likely a rebel.

Also re 1 spy: He can vote however he pleases, and there are certainly pros and cons to a single spies actions. For instance, a clever spy would have voted success....knowing he could vote fail today, and then suggest we add a spy so they can double fail the next mission. Its not an outrageous idea, and i agree its unlikely, but it IS possible

Also with ong

There is a huge difference between me changing my mind 2 hours after i made a team and before anyone had a chance to even say anything about the game...

Compared to changing your mind on a mission that eventually succeeded and having an idea of what ppl are thinking about and an understanding of how things can play out. A spy can very easily insta vote nay after seeing 4 rebels...then change his mind because his nay vote looks bad.

i was sure the last one would lose

ong might be the best fifth, as i dont think he would have jabbered with me if he was a spy. im obviously a better one, but whatever. i was prepared to concede to the spies today because i thought this had one on it all day, and my read on the previous mission wouldn't matter any more

there should never be spies on the previous mission. even if there were two, i dont think they would have come close to one of them naying

yay

Guys, I'm not a spy, I voted nay because I thought JKDS was the only spy on the list, I switched to yay because I changed my mind after wuf's sketchy comment, and I now think wuf is a spy, JKDS isn't, there were no spies on the list on wuf's nay vote just helps support both concepts.

But it doesn't really matter, because if there were no spies on the list, we've won, so who cares, right?

yay

if i was spy we would have won already. i would have rammed through a mission with as many spies on it as possible, then only i would have voted yay (because it would be to the other spies obvious that was my plan), then the rest of the game would be easy peasy

instead i tried to ram through a mission, yet nobody hops on because the spies know im not a spy

simple stuff, really

Originally Posted by JKDS

Well thats weird. Wuf, Rilla, and BID nayed the successful mission. Ong initially nayed as well. Its like, theyre all spies or something. Who'd of guessed???

yay

lol @ you

Why'd you vote succeed JKDS? Boog?

Someone mixing up signals with his spy buddy, hmm?

JKDS and some other spy fucked up. There were two spies on that mission that couldn't coordinate.

nay

Obviously there were two spies on that mission. Otherwise the spies concede by now.

^^ even if you think that, this mission gets yay'd every time. it worked yesterday, and nothing changes it not being assumed to be four rebels

which means rilla is a spy

^^ that was meant for rilla

the spies wouldnt concede by now a lot of the time

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

lol @ you

Why'd you vote succeed JKDS? Boog?

Someone mixing up signals with his spy buddy, hmm?

JKDS and some other spy fucked up. There were two spies on that mission that couldn't coordinate.

nay

My god! I think hes on to something here. Surely there must be a post by someone somewhere that corroborates this argument!

We're listening rilla, please, do continue!!!

Oh ho, you almost got me there rilla. Sneaky sneaky. Thats just a standard defense post isnt it. Very tricky

Originally Posted by wufwugy

^^ even if you think that, this mission gets yay'd every time. it worked yesterday, and nothing changes it not being assumed to be four rebels

which means rilla is a spy

I'll give you a moment to settle on why you're wrong.

Originally Posted by JKDS

My god! I think hes on to something here. Surely there must be a post by someone somewhere that corroborates this argument!

We're listening rilla, please, do continue!!!

One of you and Boog is a spy which for some reason or another voted to allow that mission to succeed.

Either you want to FPS and have me and only me raise hell about there being 2 spies on a mission that you knew had only one

OR

You mis-coordinated with your other spy buddy and the mission succeeded.

yay obviously

Mission success.

Boog, jkds, jackvance, and night gizmo. Send me your votes.

Mission failed.

2 votes for success
2 votes for failure

Lolz. Choose 5 candidates for your next mission. 2 votes for failure required this time.

Rebels 1
Spies 2

Lolz proposes:

Jackvance
Ongbonga
DanArong
Lolz
rilla

I sorry rilla You just seemed so different this game.

I dont think im gonna get a lot of cred now, but im not a spy. Where i stand at the moment is

Villagers
Rilla, NG

Spies
JV, Boog

typed up analysis

deleted it

dont care

rilla is lock rebel

if he's not, he's really fucking smart

well, we know he's really smart, but if he's not rebel, he's really fucking tricky

yeah that

So we have a group of 4 players with guaranteed at least 2 spies, and a group of 6 people with guaranteed max 2 spies.

So fuck picking anyone in the group of 4, all we have to do is find 1 spy in a group of 6 and we get two shots at it. Sounds easy really.

fiddyfiddy spies
JKDS
Boog690
Nightgizmo
Jackvance

not fiddyfiddy spies
Lolzzz_321
BankItDrew
Ongbonga
a500lbgorilla
Wufwugy
DanAronG

Lolz picked someone from the fiddyfiddy group so I say nay and I think the first mission of the remaining 2 shots we have should be the entire not fiddy group minus lolz.