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Alright I have to trust in Rilla and Gabe.

I'll add that I think Ong giving him villager lean over the Luco kill is probably wrong. At the very least, don't let it cloud your judgment too much, Ong. Remember last game when everyone was convinced right away that it couldn't be 2 noob wolves based on the night kills.

Lynch Gator

Keith...I'm learning a lot as time passes and my initial d1 reads have changed. I've been on the fence about Daub/Wuf all along. But after seeing the death toll and subsequent dialog, I now strongly feel Wuf as a villager. The relationship between Ong and Baud is highly suspect, strongly looking like collusion. I'm waiting to see how/if Baud/Ong react. Baud practically threw in the towel when facing lynch and Wuf was ready to accept the outcome. Ong seems less concerned about wolfing and more about protecting Baud.

Gator lynch is terrible. He's such an easy target. You guys killed him on Day 1 last game for next to no reason. He has given very little reason to be lynched this game

Check Rilla. He has acknowledged almost every single wacky thing Baudib has done, even quoting him and saying things like "ugh" and "damming", yet he can't be assed to think he's worth a lynch. I also love how Rilla bolded lolz like five minutes before D-hoobs announced Scourge would replace him

Originally Posted by GatorJH

nice analysis and I pretty much agree with most of it. Keith would be the one exception as he just seems to be a bit different to me this game so I am leaning more wolf then villager.

Upon review I don't like this Gator comment at all. I feel like village Gator is an independent player who would give his own reads than lauding someone else's comments, which he has done a couple times this game.

It's convenient that Ong's conspiracy theory on Luco kill clears Gator. The only real read Gator has given this game is on Keith and it's been pretty vague, which again seems un-Gatorlike. It's like Gator has picked someone who hasn't been too uber-village so he can scapegoat him; slight chance Gator and Keith are both wolves and Gator is going to throw him under the bus or say, "I was the first to say Keith was suspicious."

i'm happy with my bold now.

Originally Posted by baudib

It's like Gator has picked someone who hasn't been too uber-village so he can scapegoat him; slight chance Gator and Keith are both wolves and Gator is going to throw him under the bus or say, "I was the first to say Keith was suspicious."

Funny how you don't keep that idea to yourself to see if Gator actually does it so you can catch him in the act. I thought you were keeping all sorts of secrets this game? Apparently not the right ones

Upon review I don't like this Gator comment at all. I feel like village Gator is an independent player who would give his own reads than lauding someone else's comments, which he has done a couple times this game.

This should be "rather than lauding"

It's convenient that Ong's conspiracy theory on Luco kill clears Gator.

Just to clarify, I think it's convenient for Gator to laud a theory that clears him. I'm not suggesting that Ong and Gator are colloborating, I think I've been really clear all game that I believe Ong is a villager. He could be leveling himself on the whole Luco thing.

Go back to the first page. Notice that Baud only called me a wolf after I pointed out why lolzz is a good lynch. Also notice Baud said this later in post 348

Originally Posted by baudib

There's a decent chance that Scourrge, who wanted to play but had a scheduling conflict, will sub into the game if there's still 2 inactives tonight.

2 inactives? Why 2? BID had already subbed for Creds and Lolz was next on the list. Why was it important that Scourrge could only sub if both Lolz and Claire were around instead of just Claire?

Clearly he's ignoring me. Maybe because he and his wolfbuddies realize it's his best bet to stay alive or it could be because he really is a villager and is trying to go with Gabe's suggestion of not addressing me. I suspect the former because if he was a villager and really does think I'm a wolf, he wouldn't be so apt to just ignore his reads.

I'll just leave these here.


312 and 319

Originally Posted by baudib

Gator is unnerving me more than a bit.

Originally Posted by baudib

I decided I'm going to see who Rilla and Gator vote for, and pick one of them.

The next two are probably my picks for the wolfiest things he's done

Originally Posted by baudib

if i die don't point finger at ong. pretty sure he's a villager

you can safely rule out wolf pairs of
baudib-ong
baudib-wufwugy
baudib-bikes

so look for other ones

Originally Posted by baudib

Wuf gave us the most hidden wolf. Wuf should be kept alive til end game.

I'll try to not go out of my way to do more Baud posts. It is important to me that he dies before anybody else, but I realize it may not be important to others. If y'all don't wanna lynch Baud, I'm super cool with Scourrge, but that's because I think he is a wolf like 90% of the time that Baud is.

Baudib has to be a wolf. lynch baudib

Originally Posted by Keybored

Keith...I'm learning a lot as time passes and my initial d1 reads have changed. I've been on the fence about Daub/Wuf all along. But after seeing the death toll and subsequent dialog, I now strongly feel Wuf as a villager. The relationship between Ong and Baud is highly suspect, strongly looking like collusion. I'm waiting to see how/if Baud/Ong react. Baud practically threw in the towel when facing lynch and Wuf was ready to accept the outcome. Ong seems less concerned about wolfing and more about protecting Baud.

I'm protecting baudib? That's funny. If by "protecting" you mean "saying he's a wolf and voting for him", then yes, you're right, I am indeed protecting him. And why did I stop being awesome? Was it because you didn't get village cred for calling me awesome?

I realise that my vote finished up on wuf yesterday. Blame wuf for that, I expected him to request an extension so we had a little more time. Had he done that, I'd have voted for baudib or bigred. Of course that's easy to say now, but notice my vote is on baudib today and I don't want to move it. If I do move it, then it's gonna be for you.

Originally Posted by baudib

Alright I have to trust in Rilla and Gabe.

I'll add that I think Ong giving him villager lean over the Luco kill is probably wrong. At the very least, don't let it cloud your judgment too much, Ong. Remember last game when everyone was convinced right away that it couldn't be 2 noob wolves based on the night kills.

Lynch Gator

You're right, last game the kills were good enough to throw the village off the scent. It's possible that's happening here. But it's also possible that luco was killed to frame gator. gabe has been happy to throw that into his reasoning, so I'm not talking shit here. People will link it to him. It was the first thing I thought, it was only when I remembered that neither luco nor whoever had posted that I felt it was too strange a kill for gator.

And right now it's hard to see you as a wolf with gator, and you're way more likely to be one than him from where I'm sitting. So you have to go first. If you're village, well maybe I can look again at wuf and gator.

Originally Posted by OngBonga

I'm protecting baudib? That's funny. If by "protecting" you mean "saying he's a wolf and voting for him", then yes, you're right, I am indeed protecting him. And why did I stop being awesome? Was it because you didn't get village cred for calling me awesome?

I realise that my vote finished up on wuf yesterday. Blame wuf for that, I expected him to request an extension so we had a little more time. Had he done that, I'd have voted for baudib or bigred. Of course that's easy to say now, but notice my vote is on baudib today and I don't want to move it. If I do move it, then it's gonna be for you.

I'm not looking for village cred cuz nobody's paying any attention to my noob-ness but you. Seasoned villagers know I'm totally level-0 villager. Thus, only a wolf would seek to cast a shadow on me at this point.

I still think you're awesome, but I also think you're a wolf. And yes, I think voting for a fellow wolf then rescinding (4 times) is an attempt to deflect; aka, protect.

Interesting how you left the option to rescind your Baud vote wide open...I predict another late-in-the-day Ong rescind off his wolf-bauddy. And if true to your word, I'll take that vote. And your move will be broadcast for all my village peeps to see.

Originally Posted by GatorJH

Baudib has to be a wolf. lynch baudib

Even the great hunters get one once in awhile. I was REALLY hoping that you and I could have been wolves in this game.

Some thoughts in case this goes through lightning quick. I think you guys should slow down if I get to 5-6 votes really fast. This is not a plea for my life as it is a posthumous record of my current reads:

-- Think there's at least a 75% chance of a wolf between Gator and Gabe. It seems WAY more likely that Gabe is a villager. Can't think there are 2 wolves here because that's super FPS and they wouldn't have to do that given how good they are and the state of confusion in the village.
-- Because of the state of confusion, I'm happy to die. I was going to have to get myself killed off Day 2 or 3. I was hoping to make the wolves nom me but I'm sorry I made myself way too good a lynch candidate. I was trying to drop hints that I could be special a lot. Oh well.
-- I think it's like 60% there's a wolf between Keybored and GF. If Wuf is a wolf then obviously I think it has to be GF. IF Wuf's not a wolf then just ignore all this because I don't know anything.
-- I still think Bikes is a good candidate but some things have made me reconsider. He's still in my top candidates.
-- Rong's questions to me have made me feel like he's a villager. Much like Ong's read on Rong, take that with a grain of salt because everyone is so wrong about Rong so often.

I'm not even going to get into Wuf's ridiculous arguments, there's so many attempts to fling shit at the wall. 2 comments:

1. In what world does a wolf den start out by strategizing, "OMG we MUST destroy Wuf first and foremost."
2. The idea that keeping an all but confirmed wolf alive and lynch at your leisure came to me from the game where DTB fake outed as seer. 2 people had perfect information: Boog (Villager) and Bikes (real seer). They both urged the village to lynch DTB later. I realize this situation is different but in my mind Wuf has been long confirmed. For Wuf to say no one in the history of WW has ever thought it was a good idea to keep a wolf alive is a lie.

Originally Posted by baudib

Even the great hunters get one once in awhile. I was REALLY hoping that you and I could have been wolves in this game.
.

WTF that should be get one wrong.

Originally Posted by OngBonga

You're right, last game the kills were good enough to throw the village off the scent. It's possible that's happening here. But it's also possible that luco was killed to frame gator. gabe has been happy to throw that into his reasoning, so I'm not talking shit here. People will link it to him. It was the first thing I thought, it was only when I remembered that neither luco nor whoever had posted that I felt it was too strange a kill for gator.

And right now it's hard to see you as a wolf with gator, and you're way more likely to be one than him from where I'm sitting. So you have to go first. If you're village, well maybe I can look again at wuf and gator.

Maybe, but Occam's Razor. Would be a sick play by someone to do that. Ong, I'm disappointed in myself because I thought you of all people would understand what I was trying to do. We'll have to have a chat about this after the game.

Originally Posted by baudib

1. In what world does a wolf den start out by strategizing, "OMG we MUST destroy Wuf first and foremost."

I don't think this was a plan. I think it was something you started personally, then it took on a life of its own. I think you started it because lolzz was an afk wolf and you didnt like that he was my bold choice.

Of course, this is getting dangerously close to the "too good to be true" thing, so I'll stop there.

I'll be shocked if either BID or Scourrge are wolves.

Why do you think Scourrge is a villager?

i feel like wuf is going to realize hes bluffing later on and claim that it was his original intention

is this standard ww now? jesus h.

baudib, chill. you can't say this

village needs clarity. think and digest everything. confusion only helps wolves. i've put a lot of information out there and my views of the situation, everyone can go back and look at it.

and then post 100 more posts of wishy washy thin bs. also i dont get why you claimed to have the sleeper wolf locked and then insta switched to gator as soon as gabe posted something. either you are spouting bs just to spout bs or you have 0 conviction in your reads and this harms the village more than you would think.

also you didn't rescind when you lunched gator but then rebolded him anyway.

gabe got me once doing this when i was a ww noob like 5 years ago so yeah lynch baudib

it also gives the fringe benefit of not having to read 150-200-500 baudib posts per day cycle.

Originally Posted by gabe

i feel like wuf is going to realize hes bluffing later on and claim that it was his original intention

I don't understand what you mean.

Approximately 42 hours remain in the Day #2 Cycle.

To bikes:

There was no re-bolding.

The original lynch nomination of GatorJH by baudib occurred in Post #654. It was rescinded in Post #670 and reinstated in Post #676. No big deal, as it is quite a bit of content to go through, but just wanted to make it clear that there was indeed a rescind before re-nomination.

At this point here are the Day #2 running totals:

DAY #2 LYNCH NOMINATIONS

baudib - 4+ (+ sign means first player to arrive at this number)
GatorJH - 3
wufwugy - 2

_____

a500lbgorilla --- GatorJH #674
BankItDrew --- (GrayFoxxxx #572) (baudib #579) wufwugy #603
baudib --- (GrayFoxxxx #571) (GatorJH #654) GatorJH #676
bikes --- baudib #696
gabe --- GatorJH #652
GatorJH --- baudib #685
GrayFoxxxx --- wufwugy #605
Keith
Keybored
OngBonga --- baudib #641
rong
scourrge
wufwugy --- baudib #620

Scourrge if you're a wolf i'm taking all your money next time I see you. Well, obviously I'm taking all your money even if you're not a wolf. But still.

I think I'm ready to put him down.

rescind
lynch baudib


just too many contradictions and weird happennings on a few points.

Baudib, give me one new good reason why I should think you're a villager.

I've been lying, manipulating and trying to level people the whole game. post 689 is legit though

^^Unless he's joking, we can take this to mean he's a wolf

I'm positive that means Scourrge should be next. Vig can shoot him or he can be tomorrow's lynch. I would like to post my pick for the third wolf, but I see arguments for at least half of the players, so it would be pointless. Rilla is the most interesting of that, as he acted strange with regards to Baud and Lolzz, but it's not a sure thing and the final wolf could easily be much more hidden

Not the whole game but quite a bit. Trying to put the wolves on tilt.

Originally Posted by baudib

Trying to put the wolves on tilt.

Not sure how that's possible. I just can't imagine the den being like "OMFG THAT DAMN BAUDIB OS PISSING ME OFF!"

you'll have to re-examine it and look at how some people have been acting.

if there's not at least 2 wolves in Wuf, Bikes, Gator, GF then fuck me i'm sorry for all this.

Looks like he's all but admitting it.

Don't rule out the possibility that the final wolf (assuming Scourrge is the second) was able to prep for this situation and got in on the ground floor. For example, Ong could be the final wolf, but in order to be it means he's been playing extremely well. It means he would have started hedging against Baud early but was never on his wagon when he was truly in trouble, but then Day 2 came and he knew the writing was on the wall so he got in on the ground floor against Baud. He's not my first or second pick for the final wolf, but I feel like I should point this out. If Baud and Scourrge flip wolf, it will get really easy to get lazy and excited. We've had several examples in these games of one of the wolves playing super slick and looking like he was integral to the village successes

If Baud isn't a wolf, then, well, he's kind of an awesome player. Not necessarily in a pro-village way, but in a "daaaaaaaamn" sort of way

so predictable Wuf

i predict ur mom

scourrge: confirmed villager
ongbonga: confirmed villager

I notice that you've called Ong confirmed villager since the very beginning. You've gone so far as to even state that some of your views depend on him being a villager

Is this you buddying up to him to keep him off your back or is it decent leveling, where you want to overstate your case for a fellow wolf being a villager so people will think he couldn't possibly be a wolf since you wouldn't be expected to overstate your case?

baudib has slipped a few times but its really really hard for a wolf to be so committed to the game, especially on day 1.

wuf usually after you make a mistake you usually find a reason for why you made it. try to do that in advance of this...you are just hooked on baudib because he posted so much stuff for you to pick at

i think gator is a pretty good lynch but we need more others in the spotlight. BUT i guess the spewtards in the game probably are not special roles which makes them a little better targets for competing bandwagons.

gator maybe it wasnt complete "dissonance" but that first post i quoted had you clearly saying more words/posts was good, and later you act like its bad. i know its nitpicky but the games are tough!

i kinda like an ong lynch better than wuf/baudib....

Now you're making me paranoid Gabe. You've been on my shortlist, mainly due to not seeing that Bigred was simply uninterested in the game (I feel like you've made those sorts of calls before) and I think you're one of the main people who would agree to a tricky nom choice in Luco

Why are you not into a Baud lynch after he just said this

I've been lying, manipulating and trying to level people the whole game.

How do you read this as anything other than him admitting he's a caught wolf about to be lynched?

Originally Posted by gabe

i kinda like an ong lynch better than wuf/baudib....

This came outta nowhere.
Why?

My read is that from their posting styles wuf and baudib would probably accuse anyone who talked at them. Naturally they're attracted

I said ong to make the point that I don't like wuf/baud lynch

Originally Posted by wufwugy

How do you read this as anything other than him admitting he's a caught wolf about to be lynched?

Not many people in the history of werewolf would try to suggest they are a wolf like that so far before deadline.

Btw it's not often the village stays on the villager they thought would be lynched at the beginning of the day. Which makes it a terrible admission of him if true, and out of anyone we play with, no one really plays terrible

Man I'm not even trying to defend baudib, I just know it's probably bad for village to get caught up in wuf/baudib spat. See the forest not the trees

So far behind. Exam tomorrow morning, gotta cram tonight. Realistically I'm not gonna catch up until Friday pm UK time. Sorry.

keybored's an interesting guy

Originally Posted by baudib

keybored's an interesting guy

I get that a lot...LYNCH BAUDIB

Let's let the real game begin!!

look at that, say his name and he appears.

i LOVE my bandwagon right now.

When's day end? Either UK time or hours remaining.

rong, in something like 36-37 hours

look how fast my wagon took off after gator picked up 3 votes

almost snap-cinch guarantee 2 wolves on it, maybe even all 3. probably felt like it was super safe to jump on this one. i hope this is going to help.

Ty. I'll be back before day end.

Originally Posted by baudib

I've been lying, manipulating and trying to level people the whole game. post 689 is legit though

Stop posting.

Baudib's play has nosedived. Wuf's right that I've been understanding to him, and I've put out there the base reason for it. He took the lead, when you take the lead you look like a wolf to everyone, hence wolves never do it.

But even if he's a villager, he's a detriment to the village.

Gator is still a good wagon. He has a special onus on him as a villager to help the village because he's such a dangerous wolf.

Wufwugy is also still a good lynch even if baudib flips wolf because he has been completely unable to find anyone else wolfy but baudib. Complete and utter focus on one target is utterly strange coming from him. His new second target is me, and he's not attacking me - just lightly gesturing in my direction.

Originally Posted by gabe

Man I'm not even trying to defend baudib, I just know it's probably bad for village to get caught up in wuf/baudib spat. See the forest not the trees

Mmhmm.

Originally Posted by baudib

Even the great hunters get one once in awhile. I was REALLY hoping that you and I could have been wolves in this game.

Some thoughts in case this goes through lightning quick. I think you guys should slow down if I get to 5-6 votes really fast. This is not a plea for my life as it is a posthumous record of my current reads:

-- Think there's at least a 75% chance of a wolf between Gator and Gabe. It seems WAY more likely that Gabe is a villager. Can't think there are 2 wolves here because that's super FPS and they wouldn't have to do that given how good they are and the state of confusion in the village.
-- Because of the state of confusion, I'm happy to die. I was going to have to get myself killed off Day 2 or 3. I was hoping to make the wolves nom me but I'm sorry I made myself way too good a lynch candidate. I was trying to drop hints that I could be special a lot. Oh well.
-- I think it's like 60% there's a wolf between Keybored and GF. If Wuf is a wolf then obviously I think it has to be GF. IF Wuf's not a wolf then just ignore all this because I don't know anything.
-- I still think Bikes is a good candidate but some things have made me reconsider. He's still in my top candidates.
-- Rong's questions to me have made me feel like he's a villager. Much like Ong's read on Rong, take that with a grain of salt because everyone is so wrong about Rong so often.

I'm not even going to get into Wuf's ridiculous arguments, there's so many attempts to fling shit at the wall. 2 comments:

1. In what world does a wolf den start out by strategizing, "OMG we MUST destroy Wuf first and foremost."
2. The idea that keeping an all but confirmed wolf alive and lynch at your leisure came to me from the game where DTB fake outed as seer. 2 people had perfect information: Boog (Villager) and Bikes (real seer). They both urged the village to lynch DTB later. I realize this situation is different but in my mind Wuf has been long confirmed. For Wuf to say no one in the history of WW has ever thought it was a good idea to keep a wolf alive is a lie.

This is seriously nothing but noise. He's about to be run through by a train, he's supposed to be opening up his mind and dumping out all his thoughts and all that's coming out is nonsense.

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

Keybored's making no enemies. Going with the flow.

My Day 2 soulread is that keybored is a wolf.

Go back and read all of his posts (should only take a couple of minutes). Tell me every post doesn't have a "I'm a noob pretending to sound like a wolf" vibe to it.

Originally Posted by dhubermex

[I]Approximately 42 hours remain in the Day #2 Cycle.

Dan, 42 hours from this post takes us to Friday 11.30pm UK.

I think drew is a villager, I see nothing to be concerned about.

I still see no reason to think baudib is villager. I got a bit of a villager feel of bikes' post too.

rilla and gabe, there could be a wolf between these two. More likely gabe.

[QUOTE=dhubermex;2207589]This Day #2 Cycle will last approximately 72 hours and end on Friday, 22nd, at 7:00pm Eastern Time.[/B]

Majority Lynch = 7 Votes

By my calendar, d2 ends tonight (US) in ~10.5 hours...No?

^^^
Nevermind...Calendar off by a day. Sorry for wasted posts. No coffee yet!

Day #2 ends on Friday, 7:00pm Eastern Time, or when a majority consensus (7 votes needed) is reached on who to lynch. There are approximately 35 hours still remaining in this cycle, assuming no majority is reached before then.

DAY #2 LYNCH NOMINATIONS

baudib - 6+ (+ sign means first player to arrive at this number)
GatorJH - 3
wufwugy - 1

_____

a500lbgorilla --- GatorJH #674
BankItDrew --- (GrayFoxxxx #572) (baudib #579) (wufwugy #603) baudib #700
baudib --- (GrayFoxxxx #571) (GatorJH #654) GatorJH #676
bikes --- baudib #696
gabe --- GatorJH #652
GatorJH --- baudib #685
GrayFoxxxx --- wufwugy #605
Keith
Keybored --- baudib #722
OngBonga --- baudib #641
rong
scourrge
wufwugy --- baudib #620

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

Go back and read all of his posts (should only take a couple of minutes). Tell me every post doesn't have a "I'm a noob pretending to sound like a wolf" vibe to it.

I did and I can see your point; not gonna dispute. But since I'm holding Baud as wolf and you're continuing to vote same despite his 6th nod, then I'm good with putting you in my solid-villager category. Rilla, Keith, Rong, and Wuf are there too. Can't read Scourge and Bikes yet. Gabe & Gator are on the fence tho. I def get a special feel off one if not both of them...

Ugh. I felt really confident in my read that baud was villager just trying to go way gung-ho, and overestimating what he could accomplish completely on his own on day 1. But the near-consensus about it has me doubting myself. I feel like I understand baud pretty well, but there are a lot more experienced players in here. My current thoughts about baud's possible status:

Villager
- He's a villager noob so the nonsense could be from that
- Posting lots of noise just doesn't seem like what he'd do as a day 1 wolf (he'd still post a lot, but I think not so much of it would be all over the place)
- A couple of his recent posts, 721 and 725, while not particularly useful, don't sound wolfish to me at all. They sound like a villager who thinks he's about to die (and can do nothing about it) wanting to point people in the right direction.

Wolf
- A lot of empty/unexplained reads
- Insistence that he has wolves pinned down - supposedly in an effort to frustrate wolves?
- Claiming his strongest read by far is wuf, then not pursuing that anymore


I think the toughest part is that wolves can make a lot of posts that sound like villagers, and villagers can sometimes look like wolves. And in baud's case, his last game as wolf could be coloring people's views of his posts. Looking through a wolf-colored-lens, so to speak.

I think we need more info as a village, but I just can't throw my vote on baud right now. I'm a bit worried that I'm completely off-base here, but I still don't think he's a wolf.

^ ^ ^

Scourrge...I felt exactly the same way through d1 as Baud was getting slammed. But his failure to correct or explain and continued noise has been too much for me on d2.

I wish I could isolate baudib's posts. Can I isolae baudib's posts? I want to wall a case on him but scrolling through ten pages of waffle isn't filling me with motivation, and I'm just gonna be lazy and say dude is a wolf and we should lynch him hard.

I think the Gator/Gabe dynamic may be more crucial to unraveling the whole thing than Baud/Gator or Baud/Wuf

Not claiming to be able to read either one but judging by their actions Gabe is being more helpful and villagery while Gator isn't doing anything for us. Wolf Gabe is able to look helpful and villagery and say things like "we need to put other people in the spotlight" to create confusion IF the actual wolves are already in the spotlight.

But from my perspective, I know I'm a villager and Gabe is smart enough to figure that out. If Gabe were a wolf he'd probably keep that to himself.

Originally Posted by Keybored

I did and I can see your point; not gonna dispute. But since I'm holding Baud as wolf and you're continuing to vote same despite his 6th nod, then I'm good with putting you in my solid-villager category.

Two classic ways in an attempt by a wolf to push away accusations are:

1) do not engage
2) tell the accuser they're a villager

Originally Posted by OngBonga

I wish I could isolate baudib's posts. Can I isolae baudib's posts? I want to wall a case on him but scrolling through ten pages of waffle isn't filling me with motivation, and I'm just gonna be lazy and say dude is a wolf and we should lynch him hard.

I don't understand how you think I'm waffling. I liked Wuf/Bikes as wolves from the beginning and GrayFoxxxx as well. I was never NOT suspicious of Gator and he's been looking more like a wolf to me, especially after Gabe's read and then my bandwagon taking off when Gator started getting votes.

It has given me pause that you switched off Wuf, and it has also troubled me that veteran players haven't instantly declared Wuf a wolf, but I still can't reconcile his game with his normal villager personality. Rilla said these things much more eloquently and in like 1/100th the words that I have.

Originally Posted by baudib

blah blah blah stuff about gator and gabe

But from my perspective, I know I'm a villager and Gabe is smart enough to figure that out. If Gabe were a wolf he'd probably keep that to himself.

Gabe would but Gator wouldn't?

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

Gabe would but Gator wouldn't?

Yes Gator would but he hasn't done that.

Touché

All of Baudib's mega posts cloud the thread and make it more difficult for the village to act on the other information that is there.

Therefore IMO leaving him alive, if he continues with that model (and it appears that he will), is bad for the village and good for the wolves.

Gator, who do you think is wolfy?

Originally Posted by GatorJH

All of Baudib's mega posts cloud the thread and make it more difficult for the village to act on the other information that is there.

Therefore IMO leaving him alive, if he continues with that model (and it appears that he will), is bad for the village and good for the wolves.

Totally agree!

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

Two classic ways in an attempt by a wolf to push away accusations are:

1) do not engage
2) tell the accuser they're a villager

Duh! Thanks for those pearls of wisdom.