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Old 12-01-2008, 07:37 PM     Post subject: WTF is wrong with ppl? #1 (permalink)  
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 Seriously.... why do these idiots play poker?

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Poker Star Game 22532055836 / Tournament
Table 124216584 1 -
Blinds : 50/100
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8 players
[SB] kycheetah (1655)
[BB] eNakamura (1420)
[1] Wescgirl (3335)
[2] PlaQ (1370)
[3] Jaka2007 (1169)
[4] wisdommaster (1146)
[5] damnudonkeys (1785)
[But] xPokermage (1620)

eNakamura A Q Initial Pot: 150

Wescgirl folds
PlaQ folds
Jaka2007 calls 100
wisdommaster folds
damnudonkeys folds
xPokermage folds
kycheetah calls 50
eNakamura is All in
Jaka2007 is All in
kycheetah folds
### FLOP ### 5 K T Pot: 2689
### TURN ### 3 Pot: 2689
### RIVER ### 9 Pot: 2689
eNakamura shows A Q
Jaka2007 shows 4 5
Jaka2007 wins 2438 from the main pot with A Pair of fives
eNakamura wins 251 from side pot n°1 with High Card ace

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Old 12-01-2008, 07:52 PM #2 (permalink)  
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he might be drunk.what buy in is this?
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he might be drunk.what buy in is this?
It's a $6.50 and I don't think the person is drunk. I saw them a few hours earlier but I can't remember anything special about them. Unfortunately I can't berate them for being a poor player, since their stats are disabled in Sharkscope (probably a sign this player has been abused before for bad play).

I know ideally we should be pleased with play like this since most times we double up, but it's hard to accept it when your tournament is destroyed by play as bad as this.
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 http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/forum/tilt-f42.html

FWIW, if these idiots didn't play poker, I wouldn't either.
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All i can do is laugh because not only do u get called by a worst hand your still favored after the flop. The only thing i can say is a standard raise of 3x or 4x would of worked just fine also. If you just shove and get called the only person u can blame is yourself for taking skill out of the equation. I understand he shouldn't call but y risk all your chips when their is still a lot of tournament left.
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All i can do is laugh because not only do u get called by a worst hand your still favored after the flop. The only thing i can say is a standard raise of 3x or 4x would of worked just fine also. If you just shove and get called the only person u can blame is yourself for taking skill out of the equation. I understand he shouldn't call but y risk all your chips when their is still a lot of tournament left.
What is the plan if you 3x or 4x and miss the flop?
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All i can do is laugh because not only do u get called by a worst hand your still favored after the flop. The only thing i can say is a standard raise of 3x or 4x would of worked just fine also. If you just shove and get called the only person u can blame is yourself for taking skill out of the equation. I understand he shouldn't call but y risk all your chips when their is still a lot of tournament left.
eNaka's shove is fine, IMO
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:40 PM #8 (permalink)  
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eNaka's shove is fine, IMO

yep yep, i could see the argument when ur IP and no limpers to make it 3-4x but OOP with limper in there is an ez shove.
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im not saying the shove is a bad play. Just cause you miss the flop doesn't mean you can't represent a hand that has his 4-5 crushed. If you standard raise and that board comes out you think he's putting all his chips in with bottom pair? People are more likely to fold when they see cards that can beat them. That was my point.
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:03 PM #10 (permalink)  
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 WHY DID YOU SHOVE?!
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 "If you just shove and get called the only person u can blame is yourself for taking skill out of the equation."

I may be just coming back from a layoff, but wtf is this advice. He made a great play, got a dream call, and took a bad beat. I want that call all day, and just because the deck kicked you in the knackers this time is no reason to start "taking the skill out"

The skill was knowing to shove there. nh wp, fire up another!
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I had KK cracked by 54 in a worse situation yesterday; he called 5xBB from UTG raiser, called pot on flop with flush draw and called off his stack on another pot-sized bet on a blank turn. Laugh it off and crank another one up.

When you get it in as a 2-1 favorite you made the right play.
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You made the right decision, and making correct decisions is all we can do in poker. As others have said, you should be delighted to be called by such crap; the fact is that 40% of the time he will suck out, it's just the mathematics.

BTW over the weekend I saw several similarly bad calls at the $27s. When the person whose AK was beaten by T8s asked in the chat box why he called with such crap, the caller said, "GAMBLE GAMBLE GAMBLE".
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had my aces cracked by K5offsuit
Sitting in the ubble with out about 3000 chips, opp bet out 450- (had me covered by 700ish. I pushed, just expecting to take the pot down there. He called i was like wtf his reply was " I had you covered". I'm like :s maybe bit of bad play from me to push but still. Anyway just light up a smoke and carry on son. thats the way forward
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Old 12-02-2008, 09:49 AM #15 (permalink)  
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It seems to be the sooooted thing with these donks, they just can't fold them.

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If you standard raise and that board comes out you think he's putting all his chips in with bottom pair? People are more likely to fold when they see cards that can beat them. That was my point.
I don't know about that, I see some of these donks call big bets all the way to the river on bottom pair - it's great when you have them beat, but it sucks when you're trying to bluff/semibluff.
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I don't know about that, I see some of these donks call big bets all the way to the river on bottom pair - it's great when you have them beat, but it sucks when you're trying to bluff/semibluff.
Ummm, remember what Doyle Brunson said - never bluff a calling station?!?!?!
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Old 12-02-2008, 07:02 PM #17 (permalink)  
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 I'm sure that some people try and get the cards to add up to 21 sometimes. He only has 9, he has to twist.
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FWIW, if these idiots didn't play poker, I wouldn't either.
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Old 12-02-2008, 08:03 PM #19 (permalink)  
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You can't say this is a bad push, no way. Good job, next time in the same spot push again.
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I think everything that needs to be said has been said.

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