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Old 09-30-2009, 01:50 PM     Post subject: Wrong play? ($2.25) #1 (permalink)  
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Villain was on the button running 33/0 over 15 hands. I'm kinda of torn as to whether I made the right play and he just made a donk call and got lucky. Or if I just played a bad hand.

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MP1 (t1410)
MP2 (t2242)
Hero (CO) (t1790)
Villian (Button) (t950)
SB (t1771)
BB (t2739)
UTG (t1110)
UTG+1 (t1488)

Hero's M: 19.89

Preflop: Hero is CO with 10, J
4 folds, Hero bets t180, Villian calls t180, 2 folds

Flop: (t450) 5, 4, 9 (2 players)
Hero bets t180, Villian calls t180

Turn: (t810) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets t1430 (All-In), Villian calls t590 (All-In)

River: (t1990) 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t1990

Results below:
Villian had K, 10 (one pair, fours).
Hero had 10, J (one pair, fours).
Outcome: Villian won t1990
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Old 09-30-2009, 02:14 PM #2 (permalink)  
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pre-flop is ok (a tad loose, but OK). flop bet sizing is horrible. If villain is a decent player he knows that this flop most likely missed your hand and your weak bet validated that. Both plays on the turn are just bad as well. The 4 most likely didn't help your hand but all he beats is a non Ace bluff.

My guess is that you had an extremely LAGGY image by this point in the tournament and had shown down some pretty weak hands which led him to believe that you could be firing with air here.
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Old 09-30-2009, 02:48 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Never ever bluff at these stakes! You can beat these guys with straightforward play. They will call you with ANY hand which actually gives you the edge. So, bet with the better hand and win.
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Old 10-30-2009, 08:08 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 I'm going to say that pre-flop is probably a little loose for the $2's. Most opponents aren't folding Ax in the blinds at this level, so I prefer to just play ABC poker. Your c-bet needs to be bigger or you should just give up the pot. It seems like you don't want to risk the chips and if this is the case, don't raise PF or take a small-balling approach.

Try to think about how many chips you will need to risk (before you even raise PF) with a c-bet if you are called and have to play the hand.
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goofy hand.

ummmm im fine with pre and would raise also

flop , w/ him having position and us just bricking the flop completely i just give up and c/fold.

the 1/4 pot cbet followed by the over shove turn is just goofy . not sure really what to say.
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I think preflop is fine, and I would c-bet the flop for 225-250 or so given that it's pretty dry. Once my flop c-bet is called, I'm giving up pretty fast though.

Turn shove is just...inexplicable. Considering the pot odds that opp is getting and the fact that he has like 40% of his stack in the pot already, we have like 0 fold equity (and since we're on a pure bluff, fold equity is all we can hang our hat on).
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