wierd hand from $27.50 tourney

**NLHE lahooozaher** · 05-03-2007 01:52 AM

New to table and no previous notes on these ppl.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB (t2038)
UTG (t13047)
UTG+1 (t2965)
MP1 (t4340)
MP2 (t4100)
Hero (t9765)
CO (t5005)
Button (t4065)
SB (t11225)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9

, 9

.
UTG raises to t300, 3 folds, Hero calls t300, 2 folds, SB calls t225, 1 fold.

Flop: (t1050) 8

, 9

, T

(3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets t450, Hero raises to t1650, SB calls t1650, UTG calls t1200.

Turn: (t6000) 7

(3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets t1350, Hero calls t1350, SB calls t1350.

River: (t10050) T

(3 players)
SB bets t2250, UTG calls t2250, Hero...

**drmcboy** · 05-03-2007 03:04 AM

don't you only have like 6k left? I don't understand.

**NLHE lahooozaher** · 05-03-2007 04:24 PM

The problem is I only beat one hand(88) and I think all 3 options are debatable but I'm sure people will say "at least don't fold" but I think it's a viable option given how this hand went down.

**Sprayed** · 05-03-2007 04:59 PM

I'm never folding a boat especially with this many chips in the pot. AI nh.

**zenbitz** · 05-03-2007 06:23 PM

you also beat straights. I just pay off quads/tens full here.

JL · 05-03-2007 09:42 PM

Snap fold, LDO.

**rewfie40** · 05-03-2007 10:14 PM

would be a sick lay down that i dont think you can make. I think id just push.

**drmcboy** · 05-03-2007 10:39 PM

I still don't understand. I had a long post, but I'll stop with that, because I don't know what to make of this

The problem is I only beat one hand(88)

**NLHE lahooozaher** · 05-03-2007 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by drmcboy

I still don't understand. I had a long post, but I'll stop with that, because I don't know what to make of this

The problem is I only beat one hand(88)

look at the action. I think the action is close for a push/call not a fold just saying that folding isn't absurd.

**drmcboy** · 05-04-2007 12:25 AM

you aren't worried the caller has you beat, he's not cold calling with tens full. Why do you think this guy only leads 88+ and not 77? He may not be nearly as smart as you think he is. My wife is up prbably 3k in her poker career and she still forgets about full houses sometimes.

A lot of guys are leading QJ here. These are unknowns. You cannot fold this hand. With no read, not raising also seems bad but I can at least see an argument.

**K2 the ArmA** · 05-04-2007 01:03 AM

If anyone is beating you I think they horribley miss-played their hands.

**drmcboy** · 05-04-2007 01:11 AM

that is a great point, SB check called (two bets!) the flop, for him to have the boat he had to do that with two pair or a set which is so iffy given board.

**givememyleg** · 05-04-2007 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by NLHE lahooozaher

I think the action is close for a push/call not a fold just saying that folding isn't absurd.

I strongly disgaree and think folding is absurd, with calling almost being as bad as folding.

**NLHE lahooozaher** · 05-04-2007 03:07 AM

Well I called and he had T9. I agree that he misplayed his hand but he clearly doesn't have a straight so that means he has a boat. I see now that 77 is at least as likely and more likely than 88. I dunno what's better raise or call, despite results.

**givememyleg** · 05-04-2007 03:54 AM

Why can't he have a straight? Why can't he also have a T? (Less likely, but you can't just put him on a boat.)

05-03-2007 01:52 AM #1
NLHE lahooozaher View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jan 2006 Posts 903	wierd hand from $27.50 tourney New to table and no previous notes on these ppl. PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver) BB (t2038) UTG (t13047) UTG+1 (t2965) MP1 (t4340) MP2 (t4100) Hero (t9765) CO (t5005) Button (t4065) SB (t11225) Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9, 9. UTG raises to t300, 3 folds, Hero calls t300, 2 folds, SB calls t225, 1 fold. Flop: (t1050) 8, 9, T (3 players) SB checks, UTG bets t450, Hero raises to t1650, SB calls t1650, UTG calls t1200. Turn: (t6000) 7 (3 players) SB checks, UTG bets t1350, Hero calls t1350, SB calls t1350. River: (t10050) T (3 players) SB bets t2250, UTG calls t2250, Hero...

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05-03-2007 03:04 AM #2
drmcboy View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message DrButtInski Join Date Aug 2004 Posts 10,670	don't you only have like 6k left? I don't understand.

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05-03-2007 04:24 PM #3
NLHE lahooozaher View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jan 2006 Posts 903	The problem is I only beat one hand(88) and I think all 3 options are debatable but I'm sure people will say "at least don't fold" but I think it's a viable option given how this hand went down.

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05-03-2007 04:59 PM #4
Sprayed View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 3,326 Location GO BUCKS!	I'm never folding a boat especially with this many chips in the pot. AI nh.

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05-03-2007 06:23 PM #5
zenbitz View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2004 Posts 2,859	you also beat straights. I just pay off quads/tens full here.

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05-03-2007 09:42 PM #6
JL View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jan 2006 Posts 1,781	Snap fold, LDO.

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05-03-2007 10:14 PM #7
rewfie40 View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Feb 2007 Posts 105	would be a sick lay down that i dont think you can make. I think id just push.

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05-03-2007 10:39 PM #8
drmcboy View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message DrButtInski Join Date Aug 2004 Posts 10,670	I still don't understand. I had a long post, but I'll stop with that, because I don't know what to make of this The problem is I only beat one hand(88)

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05-03-2007 10:53 PM #9
NLHE lahooozaher View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jan 2006 Posts 903	Originally Posted by drmcboy I still don't understand. I had a long post, but I'll stop with that, because I don't know what to make of this The problem is I only beat one hand(88) look at the action. I think the action is close for a push/call not a fold just saying that folding isn't absurd.

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05-04-2007 12:25 AM #10
drmcboy View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message DrButtInski Join Date Aug 2004 Posts 10,670	you aren't worried the caller has you beat, he's not cold calling with tens full. Why do you think this guy only leads 88+ and not 77? He may not be nearly as smart as you think he is. My wife is up prbably 3k in her poker career and she still forgets about full houses sometimes. A lot of guys are leading QJ here. These are unknowns. You cannot fold this hand. With no read, not raising also seems bad but I can at least see an argument.

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05-04-2007 01:03 AM #11
K2 the ArmA View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2005 Posts 652	If anyone is beating you I think they horribley miss-played their hands.

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05-04-2007 01:11 AM #12
drmcboy View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message DrButtInski Join Date Aug 2004 Posts 10,670	that is a great point, SB check called (two bets!) the flop, for him to have the boat he had to do that with two pair or a set which is so iffy given board.

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05-04-2007 02:47 AM #13
givememyleg View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 13,817 Location ISHPERMING MISHIGEN	Originally Posted by NLHE lahooozaher I think the action is close for a push/call not a fold just saying that folding isn't absurd. I strongly disgaree and think folding is absurd, with calling almost being as bad as folding.
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05-04-2007 03:07 AM #14
NLHE lahooozaher View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jan 2006 Posts 903	Well I called and he had T9. I agree that he misplayed his hand but he clearly doesn't have a straight so that means he has a boat. I see now that 77 is at least as likely and more likely than 88. I dunno what's better raise or call, despite results.

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05-04-2007 03:54 AM #15
givememyleg View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 13,817 Location ISHPERMING MISHIGEN	Why can't he have a straight? Why can't he also have a T? (Less likely, but you can't just put him on a boat.)
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