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Old 11-17-2009, 08:20 PM     Post subject: TT gets 3-bet preflop, two shoves in front on the flop #1 (permalink)  
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This is a $12/180. SB's stats were something like 12/0 but that was over a small sample size. Can't remember stats on BB but from memory he was loose/passive.

Two questions:
1. Shove over preflop and be done with it? I suspect calling was a bad move
2. What to do with an overpair but two shoves in front?

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CO (t2405)
Hero (Button) (t1670)
SB (t5580)
BB (t1440)
UTG (t2585)
UTG+1 (t1425)
MP1 (t855)
MP2 (t1565)

Hero's M: 22.27

Preflop: Hero is Button with 10, 10
UTG calls t50, 4 folds, Hero bets t200, SB raises to t500, BB calls t450, 1 fold, Hero calls t300

Flop: (t1550) 4, 2, 3 (3 players)
SB bets t2450, BB calls t940 (All-In), Hero ????
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Old 11-18-2009, 05:05 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Yeah I like shoving over pf if your going to play it. BB will fold some % of the time so there is dead money to be won +utg limp.

Post flop: BB prob has like something like 88 or like 44,33,22. I dont think SB would be this aggro with AA or KK but they will some % of the time. I could see SB having QQ-99. I would probably fold after the BB call.
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Old 11-18-2009, 07:14 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Looks close to a call...I think we're around 35% to just about triple up, hard to imagine calling this 3-bet pre and folding on this flop, which you will often see is SB shoving with AK/AQ type hands, and the BB could have almost anything.

Board: 4c 3d 2h
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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 35.766% 34.65% 01.12% 43231716 1395430.00 { TT }
Hand 1: 32.721% 29.45% 03.27% 36752481 4075238.50 { 22+, ATs+, AJo+ }
Hand 2: 31.514% 28.39% 03.12% 35426328 3895346.50 { 22+, A2s+, A2o+ }
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Old 11-18-2009, 04:32 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 shove pre, fold to pre 3 bet as played pre, fold now
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Old 11-18-2009, 10:02 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Quote:
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shove pre, fold to pre 3 bet as played pre, fold now
Just to clarify, you mean shove over the open limp as first choice?
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Old 11-19-2009, 03:09 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 sorry mis read action, fold to 3 bet, fold now.
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Old 11-20-2009, 12:28 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I am also for folding pre and post. I agree with baudib that you probably just have the odds to call, but this early on, a treble up is not going to treble your chances of making the money. In the early stages of these 180's i dont want to play a big pot with TT, it just isnt stong enough imo.
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fold to preflop action. As played i would call it off post... I mean this is a $12 tourney and you could def be ahead here. It wouldnt surprise me to see 88 and ak and with all the money in the pot its worth the gamble imo.
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