some folds

**gabe** · 09-04-2005 05:35 PM

POKERSTARS GAME #2493961380: TOURNAMENT #12126032, HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL I (10/20) - 2005/09/04 - 03:31:03 (ET)
Table '12126032 1' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: hgfighter765 (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: kordothebear (1500 in chips)
Seat 3: gp333 (1500 in chips)
Seat 4: BubbaB21 (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: umaebitz (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: thugNharmony (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: Yentleman (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: caroutlet (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: Joethegamble (1500 in chips)
kordothebear: posts small blind 10
gp333: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gp333 [Qh Qs]
BubbaB21: folds
umaebitz: raises 60 to 80
thugNharmony: folds
Yentleman: folds
caroutlet: folds
Joethegamble: folds
hgfighter765: folds
kordothebear: folds
gp333: raises 220 to 300
umaebitz: raises 300 to 600
gp333: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [Th 4s 9c]
gp333: checks
umaebitz: bets 400
gp333: folds

didnt think he could reraise me preflop with anything less than AA KK.

Seat 1: brent0387 (1375 in chips)
Seat 2: Stanoots (3505 in chips)
Seat 3: gp333 (1800 in chips)
Seat 4: wynn00 (1825 in chips)
Seat 5: sportcenter (1075 in chips)
Seat 7: Dr. BarkOOn (1390 in chips)
Seat 8: Nietzsche11 (2530 in chips)
wynn00: posts small blind 50
sportcenter: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gp333 [Qs Ts]
Dr. BarkOOn: folds
Nietzsche11: calls 100
brent0387: calls 100
Stanoots: folds
gp333: calls 100
wynn00: calls 50
sportcenter: checks
*** FLOP *** [2h Qh 9s]
wynn00: checks
sportcenter: checks
Nietzsche11: bets 300
brent0387: calls 300
gp333: folds

i don't have enough chips to raise for info, and a bet and a call makes me think at least one of them has KQ or QJ.

09-04-2005 05:43 PM

Both look good to me, I play them the same.

**gabe** · 09-04-2005 05:48 PM

would you fold QJ on the 2nd one?

**a500lbgorilla** · 09-04-2005 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by gabe

would you fold QJ on the 2nd one?

Preflop? Yes. :P

On the flop, I'd raise with KQ, I'd probably fold QJ.

-'rilla

**vqc** · 09-04-2005 10:33 PM

If you dont think hes reraising u with any except for AA or KK, why are u calling?

**a500lbgorilla** · 09-04-2005 10:49 PM

He has an excellent point.

Raptor lays down QQ there holla

-'rilla

**gabe** · 09-04-2005 10:51 PM

you tell me

**vqc** · 09-04-2005 11:29 PM

today isnt the 16th, ur luckbox isnt on full blast yet gabezor. Give it 2 weeks.

Raptor is a machine.
If he thinks hes up against AA or KK hesfolding there.

I dont kno why call. U might have to explain it to me. Were u too busy playing with someones boobies? If so, that is understandable.

**zenbitz** · 09-05-2005 08:28 PM

The call then check fold the raggy flop looks funny to me. If you are sure he doesn't have AKs, then I guess fold pre-flop. I'm not quite sure he doesn't play AK the same way... but not sure how much I am willing to bet into that flop.

2nd hand would be very thin to call or raise. Not quite desperate enough to push it either.

**a500lbgorilla** · 09-05-2005 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by zenbitz

The call then check fold the raggy flop looks funny to me. If you are sure he doesn't have AKs, then I guess fold pre-flop. I'm not quite sure he doesn't play AK the same way... but not sure how much I am willing to bet into that flop.

2nd hand would be very thin to call or raise. Not quite desperate enough to push it either.

He won't make that preflop raise with AKs very frequently. AKs'eds don't like to ease you into a huge pot.

-'rilla

**IowaSkinsFan** · 09-06-2005 03:09 AM

on hand 1 i think you should have made a bet on the flop, he could have done the same thing with AK, because it is a weak flop. If he raised you i'd fold. I'm not sure why you'd call the reraise and then check/fold the flop.

09-04-2005 05:35 PM #1
gabe View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Dec 2004 Posts 12,344 Location trying to live	some folds POKERSTARS GAME #2493961380: TOURNAMENT #12126032, HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL I (10/20) - 2005/09/04 - 03:31:03 (ET) Table '12126032 1' Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: hgfighter765 (1500 in chips) Seat 2: kordothebear (1500 in chips) Seat 3: gp333 (1500 in chips) Seat 4: BubbaB21 (1500 in chips) Seat 5: umaebitz (1500 in chips) Seat 6: thugNharmony (1500 in chips) Seat 7: Yentleman (1500 in chips) Seat 8: caroutlet (1500 in chips) Seat 9: Joethegamble (1500 in chips) kordothebear: posts small blind 10 gp333: posts big blind 20 * HOLE CARDS * Dealt to gp333 [Qh Qs] BubbaB21: folds umaebitz: raises 60 to 80 thugNharmony: folds Yentleman: folds caroutlet: folds Joethegamble: folds hgfighter765: folds kordothebear: folds gp333: raises 220 to 300 umaebitz: raises 300 to 600 gp333: calls 300 * FLOP * [Th 4s 9c] gp333: checks umaebitz: bets 400 gp333: folds didnt think he could reraise me preflop with anything less than AA KK. Seat 1: brent0387 (1375 in chips) Seat 2: Stanoots (3505 in chips) Seat 3: gp333 (1800 in chips) Seat 4: wynn00 (1825 in chips) Seat 5: sportcenter (1075 in chips) Seat 7: Dr. BarkOOn (1390 in chips) Seat 8: Nietzsche11 (2530 in chips) wynn00: posts small blind 50 sportcenter: posts big blind 100 * HOLE CARDS * Dealt to gp333 [Qs Ts] Dr. BarkOOn: folds Nietzsche11: calls 100 brent0387: calls 100 Stanoots: folds gp333: calls 100 wynn00: calls 50 sportcenter: checks * FLOP * [2h Qh 9s] wynn00: checks sportcenter: checks Nietzsche11: bets 300 brent0387: calls 300 gp333: folds i don't have enough chips to raise for info, and a bet and a call makes me think at least one of them has KQ or QJ.

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09-04-2005 05:43 PM #2
Guest	Both look good to me, I play them the same.

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09-04-2005 05:48 PM #3
gabe View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Dec 2004 Posts 12,344 Location trying to live	would you fold QJ on the 2nd one?

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09-04-2005 06:49 PM #4
a500lbgorilla View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD Join Date Sep 2004 Posts 23,228 Location This room is a good place to be	Originally Posted by gabe would you fold QJ on the 2nd one? Preflop? Yes. :P On the flop, I'd raise with KQ, I'd probably fold QJ. -'rilla

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09-04-2005 10:33 PM #5
vqc View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jan 2005 Posts 6,560	If you dont think hes reraising u with any except for AA or KK, why are u calling?

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09-04-2005 10:49 PM #6
a500lbgorilla View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD Join Date Sep 2004 Posts 23,228 Location This room is a good place to be	He has an excellent point. Raptor lays down QQ there holla -'rilla

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09-04-2005 10:51 PM #7
gabe View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Dec 2004 Posts 12,344 Location trying to live	you tell me

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09-04-2005 11:29 PM #8
vqc View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jan 2005 Posts 6,560	today isnt the 16th, ur luckbox isnt on full blast yet gabezor. Give it 2 weeks. Raptor is a machine. If he thinks hes up against AA or KK hesfolding there. I dont kno why call. U might have to explain it to me. Were u too busy playing with someones boobies? If so, that is understandable.

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09-05-2005 08:28 PM #9
zenbitz View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2004 Posts 2,859	The call then check fold the raggy flop looks funny to me. If you are sure he doesn't have AKs, then I guess fold pre-flop. I'm not quite sure he doesn't play AK the same way... but not sure how much I am willing to bet into that flop. 2nd hand would be very thin to call or raise. Not quite desperate enough to push it either.

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09-05-2005 11:11 PM #10
a500lbgorilla View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD Join Date Sep 2004 Posts 23,228 Location This room is a good place to be	Originally Posted by zenbitz The call then check fold the raggy flop looks funny to me. If you are sure he doesn't have AKs, then I guess fold pre-flop. I'm not quite sure he doesn't play AK the same way... but not sure how much I am willing to bet into that flop. 2nd hand would be very thin to call or raise. Not quite desperate enough to push it either. He won't make that preflop raise with AKs very frequently. AKs'eds don't like to ease you into a huge pot. -'rilla

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09-06-2005 03:09 AM #11
IowaSkinsFan View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Oct 2004 Posts 8,895	on hand 1 i think you should have made a bet on the flop, he could have done the same thing with AK, because it is a weak flop. If he raised you i'd fold. I'm not sure why you'd call the reraise and then check/fold the flop.

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