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    Default So last night/ this morning

    I was in the $4.50, £15k tourney on pokerstars and was runnin quite deep into it, about 6000 odd players and there was around 200 left, I was sittin with a decent chip stack of around 50/60k and had been playing a nice tight aggressive game the whole way through until all of a sudden I tried to steal a pot of around 15k. I shoved all in with basically nothin when the flop hit hoping he had missed and would fold but got called straight away and was against AA (no hope). I was just disgusted with myself because I could have possibly made final table or better if I didn't do it. I knew it was a stupid move after but I don't know if it was tiredness for it being half 2 in the morning or just inexperience. I'll never do anything like that again and have learned my lesson but was wondering is it silly mistakes like these that make you grow and learn as a player? Or was I just bein silly. I woke up this mornin annoyed at myself because gettin to the final stages of a tournament is an achievement in itself and to throw it away so recklessly will annoy me for at least a week haha
    Last edited by MrFerguson91; 11-27-2014 at 03:19 AM.
  2. #2
    Hey we all make mistakes, you can't blame yourself for taking a shot at the pot just happened to be at the wrong time, Doyle Brunson said it best when he said "If you aren't caught bluffing once in awhile, you aren't bluffing enough". Good luck in the future
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    It was a mistake but like every mistake there are a couple of lessons to learn here. Like Cashman said you have to take a shot every now and then but to make moves like this you shoud have a good read on the player involved. Make sure your familiar with your oponents opening range, calling range and betsizing, figure out the range of hands he's(probably) holding and push only if its within his folding range(so really good read on your oponent). This way its a more calculated risk and a great spot for chipping up. If it was due to being a couple of hours in play,it's late and your getting tired(happens to everyone every now and then) you shoud be prepared. Mild distractions like playing more tables, watching tv, listening to music etc can keep you more stimulated and will prevent you from overfocussing on your 'main' tournament( wich can cause 'blow-ups' if you do this for hours on end)
    Anyway good luck next time.
  4. #4
    One mistake is all it takes unfortunately

    That's the problem with the Stars tours, that you have to be focused for many hours. My record is just over 8 hours in their Storm Anniversary back in April. Just the thought that it went on for another 4 hours is crazy.

    Any tips on how to stay focused from some of the serious players would be nice
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    Thanks for the advice, playin a couple of big tourneys today so hopefully do a little bit better and get in the money in at least one, brought a tv up to my room as well and will watch some movies while playing haha, also have a couple of 1c/2c cash games goin at the same time to keep me focused, will post up later how I done
  6. #6
    why not post the hand in question , you missed out preflop action, blind sizes/antes. were yo in or out of position . what was your hand, i.e should you have just folded pre .

    Quote Originally Posted by jj712
    It was a mistake but like every mistake there are a couple of lessons to learn here. Like Cashman said you have to take a shot every now and then but to make moves like this you shoud have a good read on the player involved. Make sure your familiar with your oponents opening range, calling range and betsizing, figure out the range of hands he's(probably) holding and push only if its within his folding range(so really good read on your oponent). This way its a more calculated risk and a great spot for chipping up. If it was due to being a couple of hours in play,it's late and your getting tired(happens to everyone every now and then) you shoud be prepared. Mild distractions like playing more tables, watching tv, listening to music etc can keep you more stimulated and will prevent you from overfocussing on your 'main' tournament( wich can cause 'blow-ups' if you do this for hours on end)
    Anyway good luck next time.


    this reads like regurgitating what you 've read. Its a 6000 player tournament , chances are he'll have a pretty small sample on the guy anyway. How is he sposed to figure out the guy's cards are in his folding range . Thats pretty much impossible to do as he'll be folding a certain % of the time , calling the rest of the time.
    MOre tables usually means that you are less focussed on each table , the same as other distractions. Thats why they are called distractions. many MTTers start of with more tourneys and as they bust out focus more on the tables that they are running deeper in .
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    i think tired ness was a factor. u can never rush a mtt just dont work even at the final table. 200 to go in 6000 mtt your still looking at a good 3 hours running. it was a bad play, just to steel the blinds
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    ITT: guy is upset he shoved to steal the blinds and got called by AA

    Who cares. I mean, really, there is nothing to learn here. How would you feel right now if you'd taken down the pot? Stop focusing on the result. The real questions you should be asking have to do with sizing (how deep were you, and could you have gained essentially the same fold equity by raising smaller?) and herp derp could I have picked a different / better two cards to try to steal with? The latter is plainly academic. There are ICM considerations, and there probably exists a chart out there to help you figure this out.

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