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ender555

03-31-2005, 04:42 PM Post subject: small SnG tactics...

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I've read all the stickys, and I like the information there. However none of it that I read talks about playing multiple tables at a time. I guess at such a low buy-in this is unprofitable, but I get bored playing 1 at a time.

So, lets discuss the best tactics if you ARE going to play 2,3, or even 4 low level sng's at a time.

I'm assuming that 'tight is right' is an understatement in this situation. You only play premium hands, and you bet at the flop no matter what hits? fold to a raise, or take down the pot.

Does anyone have experience with multiple tables, and would they fill me in on whether it helped them make or lose money, and how there strategy worked, and what they had to adjust to when practicing mult-table.

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03-31-2005, 05:12 PM

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I've tried playing 3, even 4 tables at once but it just becomes unprofitable for me due to everything happening at once (Murphy's law). When you get in a pot on one table, seems that you're getting in a pot on 1 or two other tables as well, and it makes it difficult (for me anyway) to put the proper attention required on the decisions I'm about to make.

I rarely play more than 2 SnG's at a time, and most of the time i don't even do that. If I'm at a very very slow table and I'm getting bored then I may start playing another one but I guess it all comes down to what you're comfortable with.

Sure the thought of playing and winning 4 SnG's simultaneously sounds sweet, but think about how much time you put into your decisions when the table's down to 3-5 handed and the blinds are at 200/400 - now multiply that times 3 or 4. I dont think i could keep up with it and be sure that I'm making solid decisions.

As far as how to play if you're playing multiple tourneys I'd say that your 'tight is right' assessment is dead-on. If you've got 4 tables to keep track of, I would think that ONLY premium hands would merit entering a pot.

The bad thing about that is I personally like to raise on the button/late with good-marginal hands like KQs, KJs, ATs, etc. but moves like that aren't going to work unless you're paying attention to the other people at the table. I would think that's damn near impossible with 4 tables at once.

Regarding money, I lost, lost, lost and lost when I tried 3 or 4 tabling. Two tabling produces average results for me, but I get my highest ROI in the long term when i concentrate solely on one table and give myself the chance to make good reads across the table.

Hope this helps!

ender555

03-31-2005, 06:03 PM

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Thanks, very informative.

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03-31-2005, 06:25 PM

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you may want to stagger the start of SnGs if you are planning on playing more than one. If you wait two or three blind levels, you should be able to get a general feeling for a table and then start up another one.

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03-31-2005, 06:34 PM

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definately stagger the start. I was once heads up on 3 tables at the same time. It'll make your eyes cross. And you can only play this way, imo, if you're playing auto-pilot poker. You'll get no reads because you won't be there to see what people do with what cards and situations.

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you may want to stagger the start of SnGs if you are planning on playing more than one.

I agree with this.
I've recently been reading on another FTR thread of ex-StarCraft hyper-multi-tablers who're playing high stakes on 4 or 5 tables and 3 or 4 more hi-dollar SNG's. It inspired me to stretch a little more -- I'd been multi-tabling ring games, but always dropped to single table when in an SNG. I got two second places playing two tables, but my staggering nearly didn't work, as one table caught up to the other and passed it. I helped to focus on the more short-handed table for reads and to stay tighter on the secondary table, trying less bluffing/stealing/early-position-hijinx. It worked in the end, but I am not going to try again until my ADD flares up again

Also, if it doesn't work as well, maybe mix an early stage SNG with a ring game or two? Then you can sit out of the ring games when the SNG advances.

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04-01-2005, 12:23 AM

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If you want to increase your profitability, and you think you can do it by playing ABC poker in several SNGs, I'd say move up a buy-in instead. Same level of profit increase, and your game improves much more.

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ender555

04-01-2005, 12:37 AM

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I think i agree aleksander....

Although today i have been doing 2 successfully..

2 firsts, then 2 seconds, then 2 losses...

So I moved up to 10 dollar and have won my first one there. I think just moving up a buy in is the best way to increase profit if you are a lower stakes player..

However I will continue to play multi-table because i find myself playing autopilot poker lots even at one table. Generally i have found that being tight early on people usually notice, and then it's really easy to bluff because people already see u as tight. This strategy has been working really well for me today.

Once my bankroll affords 20's ill go back down to 1 table at a time

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04-01-2005, 06:40 AM

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I usually autopilot, because I'm usually learning more on here then I could on the table (until shorthanded of course)

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04-01-2005, 03:32 PM

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Your question inspired me to add a section to the SnG Strategy Guide on multi-tabling: http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...?p=75594#75594

Section 9 is the new multi-table section

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