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martindcx1e
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06-06-2008, 07:10 AM
Post subject: Small buy-in/Small field ROI Question
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4-of-a-Kind
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Ok I've been searching for a while so I wouldn't have to post one of these kinds of questions in here, but I can't find any results (Maybe I search bad). What kind of ROI is realistic in low buy-in tourneys (freezeouts) with fields of 100-ish that pay top 10%? I guess I'm just looking for what would be considered average and what would be considered pretty solid.
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mcatdog
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06-06-2008, 08:31 AM
Post subject: Re: Small buy-in/Small field ROI Question
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4-of-a-Kind
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what would be considered average
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what would be considered pretty solid
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Probably somewhere around 40% for one of the best players in the field. They usually have craptastic structures and don't last long enough for someone's ROI to be higher than that.
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CorbinDallas
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martin... the stars 180 man sng's have standard structures... 1500 starting chips, 15 min levels.
my ROI before 01/08 was -7%... 500 games.
in 2008 its 81%.... 1000 games.
these guys are regulars... cvail001, dick hertz, xmachine888, sirswish, agonymuffin, mellmish. not sure all the spellings are right buy you should be able to find them.
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Poker Orifice
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06-30-2008, 08:32 AM
Post subject: Re: Small buy-in/Small field ROI Question
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Originally Posted by martindcx1e
Ok I've been searching for a while so I wouldn't have to post one of these kinds of questions in here, but I can't find any results (Maybe I search bad). What kind of ROI is realistic in low buy-in tourneys (freezeouts) with fields of 100-ish that pay top 10%? I guess I'm just looking for what would be considered average and what would be considered pretty solid.
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I'd say 'average ROI' would be less in super micro buy-ins. In early going I think you'd be lucky to find 2 players on your table with a pos. ROI (my experience anyways,.. and I have all stats. run for all players, all the time, in all tourneys, lol). I'm guessing you're referring to the 180-plyr. ones on Stars?? (which I don't play in, but have) and am guessing (as buddy mentioned above) there are probably ALOT of regulars in those ones. Actually, in the tourneys I play regularly, I find there's alot of regulars in all of them.
It's taken me some time to find tourneys I like the most (can't stand cheap Mtts on Stars,.... ugh... play is freak'n terrible),... and am still looking (but have a few I'd say I'm a regular on).
My experience, generally, in higher buy-ins you'll find a larger percentage of players with a +ROI (and some that just like to lose money,... and LOTS of it --- you'd think they'd be motivated for finding new avenues for 'learning' instead of just donking off their chips in hopes of making a 'lottery-type' play??
If ya find something decent,... let me know will ya?
PS... 'solution'.... make a bigger deposit and play in bigger buy-ins, lol
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herschelw
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30% to 50% typically over a ;arge sample size would be good. 50% to 100% would be very good.
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