QQ, is this too weak/tight? ($6.50)

**taipan168** · 09-16-2006 12:49 AM

7th hand, no real reads. Is this line OK or too weak/tight? Does anybody raise the river?

Poker Stars No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t15/t30
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1400
UTG+1: t1540
MP1: t1330
Hero: t1470
MP3: t1800
CO: t1340
Button: t1420
SB: t1730
BB: t1470

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP2 with Q

Q

3 folds, Hero raises to t120, 4 folds, BB calls t90.

Flop: 8

9

4

(t255, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t180, BB calls t180.

Turn: K

(t615, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: 7

(t615, 2 players)
BB bets t60, Hero calls t60.

Results:
Final pot: t735

**givememyleg** · 09-16-2006 02:07 AM

I don't think any worse hands call a river raise. Maybe if he is really bad (which is definetly possible [and probably true]) but I think just calling is fine here.

**ripjohngotti** · 09-16-2006 02:08 AM

Bet the turn.

**taipan168** · 09-16-2006 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by ripjohngotti

Bet the turn.

What exactly would this achieve?

**givememyleg** · 09-16-2006 02:23 AM

Originally Posted by taipan168

Originally Posted by ripjohngotti

Bet the turn.

What exactly would this achieve?

Well, I can see against giving a hand like A

9 or A

8 or something equivalent a free card... However, I don't like that turn card and don't want to bloat the pot. By the river, you really do not know where you are, and raising when you don't have any idea is usually a bad thing. So as played I really don't like a river raise.

The biggest problem with betting the turn is how much? You could be drawing dead here and if you bet 400-500 you have ~ half your stack in. I think I like checking behind better.

**caesar66** · 09-16-2006 06:04 PM

I would check behind the turn as well. & just call the river bet, I would have played the hand exactly the same.

09-16-2006 12:49 AM #1
taipan168 View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2005 Posts 10,571 Location Sydney	QQ, is this too weak/tight? ($6.50) 7th hand, no real reads. Is this line OK or too weak/tight? Does anybody raise the river? Poker Stars No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t15/t30 9 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t1400 UTG+1: t1540 MP1: t1330 Hero: t1470 MP3: t1800 CO: t1340 Button: t1420 SB: t1730 BB: t1470 Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP2 with Q Q 3 folds, Hero raises to t120, 4 folds, BB calls t90. Flop: 8 9 4 (t255, 2 players) BB checks, Hero bets t180, BB calls t180. Turn: K (t615, 2 players) BB checks, Hero checks. River: 7 (t615, 2 players) BB bets t60, Hero calls t60. Results: Final pot: t735

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09-16-2006 02:07 AM #2
givememyleg View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 13,807 Location ISHPERMING MISHIGEN	I don't think any worse hands call a river raise. Maybe if he is really bad (which is definetly possible [and probably true]) but I think just calling is fine here.
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09-16-2006 02:08 AM #3
ripjohngotti View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jan 2005 Posts 1,210	Bet the turn.
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09-16-2006 02:16 AM #4
taipan168 View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2005 Posts 10,571 Location Sydney	Originally Posted by ripjohngotti Bet the turn. What exactly would this achieve?

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09-16-2006 02:23 AM #5
givememyleg View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 13,807 Location ISHPERMING MISHIGEN	Originally Posted by taipan168 Originally Posted by ripjohngotti Bet the turn. What exactly would this achieve? Well, I can see against giving a hand like A9 or A8 or something equivalent a free card... However, I don't like that turn card and don't want to bloat the pot. By the river, you really do not know where you are, and raising when you don't have any idea is usually a bad thing. So as played I really don't like a river raise. The biggest problem with betting the turn is how much? You could be drawing dead here and if you bet 400-500 you have ~ half your stack in. I think I like checking behind better.
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09-16-2006 06:04 PM #6
caesar66 View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Apr 2006 Posts 68	I would check behind the turn as well. & just call the river bet, I would have played the hand exactly the same.

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