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baudib
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12-23-2008, 03:29 PM
Post subject: QQ on button, ITM
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16 left in $21,000 Guarantee on FT.
Usually I give this type of raise very little credit but villain had shown KK before with a 5xBB raise. If he had raised 2.5x I'd three-bet here but I can't really do that without shoving.
Normally I'd shove here 100% of the time OOP but I was wondering if anyone likes a call since I'm on the button.
No Limit Holdem Tournament
$21000 Guarantee
8 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
Seat 1: canibetnow (132,354)
Seat 2: Jonh26 (205,566)
Seat 3: stringer33 (20,025)
Seat 4: Hero (96,871)
Seat 5: Petri999 (102,028)
Seat 6: Khalil Ivey (70,474)
Seat 7: Big Troutt (339,667)
Seat 8: INOKEANOMO (80,293)
Seat 9: ganster43 (130,539)
Blinds: 2500/5000 Ante 600
Pre-flop: (12,900, 8 players) Hero is BTN  
1 fold, canibetnow raises to 25,000, 2 folds, Petri999 says "ty"
Hero ???
Final Pot: 43,300
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drmcboy
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all in
I'm not sure position helps - if he has the hands you want him to have then flop may either kill your action or even worse make you fold the best hand. Not just PPs - if he has KJ it's more likely an A will flop and you'll give up. If he has AT, he may not give any more action on a rag board since your cold call is going to look like a PP.
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baudib
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cool, I pushed it in.
The reason I was wondering about cold calling is I can get away from it if overcards come but your point is great -- I don't want HIM getting away from it.
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baudib
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My mindset here is always to try to take a monster chip stack to the FT or bust out trying.
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Playing big pots at small stakes.
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dthorne04
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this is a pretty standard shove, baudib. you knowwww this. shoving > calling here all the way.
Also, calling to get away from overcards is an awful, awful mindset with your stack. you have QQ. you have <20 bbs. go all in. ez game.
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baudib
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I know. I've been having a running conversation with a pro who says he likes to flat call in position or min 3-bet and fold to a shove with QQ or AK in spots like this.
I think villain has 99-JJ here much more often than KK-AA/AK.
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drmcboy
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min bet folding over half his stack is so terrible I'll assume he's a pro because he got fired at the gas station . You'd almost have direct odds to try and run down a bigger pair there and his range is more than KK+. I would suggest running FROM these conversations instead.
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baudib
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I got it in as a 57-43 favorite so I'm happy about it.
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Playing big pots at small stakes.
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drmcboy
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good because if he'd had KK it would have been a terrible play
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baudib
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lolz
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Playing big pots at small stakes.
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baudib
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I don't think I've ever flat-called 1/4 of my stack with any hand other than when slowplaying AA.
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Playing big pots at small stakes.
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Originally Posted by drmcboy
min bet folding over half his stack is so terrible I'll assume he's a pro because he got fired at the gas station.
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So so awesome, I'm totally stealing this line.
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by mcatdog
Quote:
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Originally Posted by drmcboy
min bet folding over half his stack is so terrible I'll assume he's a pro because he got fired at the gas station.
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So so awesome, I'm totally stealing this line. |
When you know the holecards you dont need to take cool lines imo!
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Parkour to you!
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AAsoooted
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by baudib
I don't think I've ever flat-called 1/4 of my stack with any hand other than when slowplaying AA.
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exactly what i woz thinking
in example given its either fold or shove anything else is a big leak imo 
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oscar1970
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lolllllllllllll 
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Originally Posted by oscar1970
lolllllllllllll |
wat
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