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Old 04-13-2005, 12:40 AM     Post subject: Pokerstars 5+.50 SNG Not agressive enough? #1 (permalink)  
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PokerStars Game #1513968840: Tournament #6956791, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2005/04/12 - 20:35:07 (ET)
Table '6956791 1' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: EBD12 (1460 in chips)
Seat 2: Skillionaire (1460 in chips)
Seat 3: BabyChamp469 (1470 in chips)
Seat 4: fureddingboy (1900 in chips)
Seat 5: cjsop1 (1630 in chips)
Seat 6: big1john (1200 in chips)
Seat 7: learch (1480 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: Nightrage (1480 in chips)
Seat 9: Skippyd917 (1420 in chips)
big1john: posts small blind 10
learch: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BabyChamp469 [Ah Jd]
Nightrage: folds
Skippyd917: calls 20
EBD12: folds
Skillionaire: folds
learch has returned
BabyChamp469: raises 60 to 80
fureddingboy: folds
cjsop1: folds
big1john: folds
learch: folds
Skippyd917: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [9d Jh 5s]
Skippyd917: bets 80
BabyChamp469: raises 160 to 240
Skippyd917: calls 160
*** TURN *** [9d Jh 5s] [4h]
Skippyd917: bets 100
BabyChamp469: calls 100
*** RIVER *** [9d Jh 5s 4h] [9c]
Skippyd917: bets 100
BabyChamp469: calls 100
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Skippyd917: shows [9s 8s] (three of a kind, Nines)
BabyChamp469: mucks hand
Skippyd917 collected 1070 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1070 | Rake 0
Board [9d Jh 5s 4h 9c]
Seat 1: EBD12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Skillionaire folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: BabyChamp469 mucked [Ah Jd]
Seat 4: fureddingboy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: cjsop1 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: big1john (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: learch (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Nightrage folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Skippyd917 showed [9s 8s] and won (1070) with three of a kind, Nines


Crap my fault for not raising on the turn? But I was afraid of the set, especially since he called my raise, and then led out again on the turn.
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Old 04-13-2005, 12:50 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Gotta love the fishy stop'n go.

With 10/20 blinds I'm not sure I want to be playing a big pot with AJo...
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Old 04-13-2005, 12:56 AM #3 (permalink)  
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so the lesson is, fold AJo so early in the tourney?
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Old 04-13-2005, 12:56 AM     Post subject: Re: Pokerstars 5+.50 SNG Not agressive enough? #4 (permalink)  
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Seat 9: Skippyd917 showed [9s 8s] and won (1070) with three of a kind, Nines


Crap my fault for not raising on the turn? But I was afraid of the set, especially since he called my raise, and then led out again on the turn.
Ack. I hate when people play like that. He got lucky, hit his five outs and then didn't even bet out when he hit it. I think you played it well, even though it would be tempting to raise the turn as well. Given the way he played and what he showed, I doubt he'd fold to anything but a reckless bet on the turn anyway. I hope you took your chips back from this guy before the tourney ended.[/quote]
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Old 04-13-2005, 12:58 AM #5 (permalink)  
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still right smack dab in the middle of the tourney. will update when it finishes.

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got blinded out. tried to be patient and find a hand.
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PokerStars Game #1514251383: Tournament #6956791, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2005/04/12 - 21:20:46 (ET)
Table '6956791 1' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: EBD12 (715 in chips)
Seat 3: BabyChamp469 (625 in chips)
Seat 4: fureddingboy (3550 in chips)
Seat 5: cjsop1 (3290 in chips)
Seat 7: learch (2635 in chips)
Seat 9: Skippyd917 (2685 in chips)
fureddingboy: posts small blind 100
cjsop1: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BabyChamp469 [6d As]
learch: calls 200
Skippyd917: folds
EBD12: folds
BabyChamp469: raises 425 to 625 and is all-in
fureddingboy: folds
cjsop1: folds
learch: calls 425
*** FLOP *** [6c 9h Kh]
*** TURN *** [6c 9h Kh] [Qs]
*** RIVER *** [6c 9h Kh Qs] [Td]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
learch: shows [Js Kc] (a straight, Nine to King)
BabyChamp469: shows [6d As] (a pair of Sixes)
learch collected 1550 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1550 | Rake 0
Board [6c 9h Kh Qs Td]
Seat 1: EBD12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: BabyChamp469 (button) showed [6d As] and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 4: fureddingboy (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: cjsop1 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: learch showed [Js Kc] and won (1550) with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 9: Skippyd917 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old 04-13-2005, 04:26 AM #6 (permalink)  
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1st hand - good fold, I might've bet more on the turn. Fearless is the key here; with a bet of 100 you're saying I'm afraid of you're hand, but I have something and must bet; with a bet of 500, you're saying 'play the hand you're repping for 1/3 of your stack if you want to.'

Second one, hey, sometimes you gotta push.
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Old 04-13-2005, 05:12 AM #9 (permalink)  
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how much do you suggest raising to with AJo with one limper with the blinds at 20.

with the call of the raise preflop, what range of hands do you think he has?

he bet the flop and I figured my hand was still better so I reraised him to get an answer. He called, what range of hands does he have now?

Would your answer be different if I was playing at the 100s instead of the 5s?
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Old 04-13-2005, 05:59 AM #10 (permalink)  
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Rippy, how would you have played it?

I think his flop raise is fine. The turn is debatable. He's balancing protecting a top pair hand with deep money vs giving too much overlay to a bigger hand. Getting outdrawn sucks, but he only lost 100 chips on the river.

With larger blinds this is a much more straightforward hand to play.
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Old 04-13-2005, 06:15 AM #12 (permalink)  
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Pre-flop he raised to 4x the BB. A pretty good bring in that makes it easy to get away from his hand.

On the flop, there is 170 in the pot + a bet of 80. He raised to 240, a full pot bet per pot limit rules would have been (170 + 80 + 80) + 80 = 410 flat. He raised half-pot which wasn't bad and gave him room to fold to a re-raise.

I think the chips are too deep to play it that aggro. Is this the hand you want to bet your tourney on?
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Old 04-13-2005, 09:17 AM #13 (permalink)  
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Appreciate the feedback you guys gave yesterday. Rippy and Fnord, I’ll be hunting you both down on Stars in the next few days to watch and learn.

Anyway, in an effort to seriously improve my game, I thought I would try and watch other people in general sso, was another re-raise on the turn not an option?
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Old 04-13-2005, 10:32 AM #14 (permalink)  
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I think ripp wanted me to raise the turn hard.
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