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ed cooper
Old 03-14-2010, 02:58 PM     Post subject: playing ak on the flop... #1 (permalink)  
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hello again... i need to improve my flop play. im not sure how much its costing me, but 'enough' would be an apt answer. i think i too readily fold, because im trying to conserve as many chips as poss for the late stages.

have pasted an example form earlier today. hope its clear.

PokerStars Game #41135185341: Tournament #252521150, $6.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2010/03/14 4:38:37 ET
Table '252521150 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Motte75 (1595 in chips)
Seat 2: gsouljah (1435 in chips)
Seat 3: stardestryr (1470 in chips)
Seat 4: jiroz (1430 in chips)
Seat 5: RhonT (1470 in chips)
Seat 6: Herrant (1600 in chips)
Seat 7: Hero (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: Elvyr (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: LucKsTarWSOP (1500 in chips)
Herrant: posts small blind 10
Hero: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ac Kc]
Elvyr: folds
LucKsTarWSOP: folds
Motte75: folds
gsouljah: folds
stardestryr: folds
jiroz: folds
RhonT: folds
Herrant: raises 40 to 60
Hero: raises 140 to 200
Herrant: calls 140
*** FLOP *** [5s Qd 6h] (pot 400)
Herrant: checks
Hero: bets 200
Herrant: raises 360 to 560

Hero?

i felt the check raise coming. is a cbet too 'transparent' at times?

thanks,

ed
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Old 03-14-2010, 08:06 PM #2 (permalink)  
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 6.5 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP1 (t1595)
MP2 (t1435)
MP3 (t1470)
CO (t1430)
Button (t1470)
SB (t1600)
Hero (BB) (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)

Hero's M: 50.00

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, K
7 folds, SB bets t60, Hero raises to t200, SB calls t140

Flop: (t400) 5, Q, 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t200, SB raises to t560

Total pot: t800



I'm flatting the raise preflop, as I don't like re-raising with AK/s in level 1/2 as an inflated pot on a flop you don't hit can bring up situations just like this one more times than not.

But as played, I'm folding as you can be quite sure you're behind on the flop most of the time, and with 3.5/1 or so odds to call it's just not worth continuing, and no way I'm pushing over.
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Old 03-14-2010, 09:21 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Pretty much what danoxford said. 3-betting preflop is OK, flatting is OK too, both have their pluses and minuses.

As played, this is a good flop for a c-bet and I would bet it a little harder, like 250 or so. Once you get raised, just let it go and move on.
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3-betting with position in BvB is standard I think; your flop bet is so weak, I'd either bet more or (most likely) check behind. there's not much he can have here but by the same token, it's unlikely to hit you as well.
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Old 03-15-2010, 01:18 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Old 03-15-2010, 12:06 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 I think you played it fine, I may have bet a bit more on the flop (like 250-270) but 1/2 pot bet is also ok


 
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