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taipan168
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05-08-2006, 05:28 AM
Post subject: OT: What's the worst player you've found on Sharkscope?
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Sorry for an off topic thread, but what's the worst opponent that you've found on sharkscope? My worst had lost $5,500, and that was $5-$10 at a time! There were also quite a few others who had done $2,000++ - mostly just down in a straight line, without any positive "variance".
Invariably you see these guys trying to recoup their losses at a higher level, often at the $55s or even $109s, or digging themselves a bigger hole by taking a shot at the $20/180s.
If you had these sorts of results, you'd wonder why you wouldn't realise at least one the following:
- Maybe I should spend 5-10% of what I've lost buying some books and learning how to play the game
- Maybe I should do a google search for poker strategy?
- Take a small % of my losses and find a poker coach
- I suck at poker, I'd be better off playing chess/backgammon/scrabble/tiddlywinks, whatever
- I have a serious gambling problem and need to attend GA
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jdubs
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I know its sad isnt it? I am glad I disovered sharkscope though, it rocks! ever notice when you sit down to a 180, the whole table usually has a little goldfish swimming around next to their name? but some of those folks have lost alot of money!!! I almost feel bad for them...
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Sharkscope?
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www.sharkscope.com - although it isn't 100% accurate, it claims to have captured the results of over 8 million PS and Cryptologic SNGs. Try it - 5 free searches per day.
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Seems pretty accurate on my stats, as Tai said i think its just SnG's though not tourney or ring.
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Whenever I play somebody who plays just so badly that you think "OMG how can they be so moronic?" (like people with 80%+ VPIP the whole tourney, or idiots who call AI bets with jack high) I look them up and 95% of the time the stats confirm my reads.
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I quite like Sharkscope.
My stats seem pretty accurate on there. (Just to give him a bit of kudos, check out TLR's stats ... forty2u ... impressive!)
I also paid the $8 for 200 searches (on top of the 5 free a day) so I run a SS search on all my opponents whilst I'm waiting for it to start. I have seen some uuuuber fish about.
Will have a look when I get home from work and report back!
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Interesting. I don't really know if mine are accurate seeing as I didn't keep stats for the first year I played (and was a pretty bad player). I must have done pretty bad without keeping track because according to this site, I haven't made much money at all.
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These do seem pretty accurate (and for me, depressing)
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ive played 5-10 $215s the past few weeks and the cards havent been so good. it makes my stats from all the sngs i played on there look not so good.
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on the 'form' why does it say Super tilt?? wtf?
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Staresy
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lol!
You can change all that. Go to "preferences" and switch it to the "WLPWL" style. Super tilt means you haven't cashed in 8 straight.
You can also adjust the "Shark" and "Fish" settings - i.e. increase the sample size, adjust the %'s to define shark and fish.
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worst player = me probably. My ROI has dropped 13% over the last 49 tournies :/
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didn't know about this. I'm looking pretty good though...
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elanto
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man this is a little of for my SNG's no idea why though...but still looking good, too bad I have such a small sample size tthough
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<dwarfman> No I had sex for the first time on 23rd March 2005 at 11.56pm.
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elanto
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guys do a search for michaeel1123, hes negative lol, but only 1k and i guess at the stakes he plays thats braking even...but still I thought he was way up there in profits
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<dwarfman> No I had sex for the first time on 23rd March 2005 at 11.56pm.
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TLR
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Thanks, staresy
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Originally Posted by elanto
guys do a search for michaeel1123, hes negative lol, but only 1k and i guess at the stakes he plays thats braking even...but still I thought he was way up there in profits
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its because he just started playing 2 and 5Ks (yikes!) and seems to be on a down swing.. man can u imagine having a bankroll for that???
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Staresy
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Originally Posted by elanto
man this is a little of for my SNG's no idea why though
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How long u been playing on Stars? I think the sample only runs back to early '05?
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try Babychamp469
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Cool site. Very very nice stats TLR!
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Roll Rebuilding (for the second time). Current; $1600 from $300 (previous, $2300 from $15)
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Oh, that was depressing. -4% ROI. But only 130 SNGs! Yay?!?!??
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elanto
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whats TLR's username?
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<dwarfman> No I had sex for the first time on 23rd March 2005 at 11.56pm.
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Most ive seen is -$40k, it was posted in a thread about this over at 2+2
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Originally Posted by andy-akb
Most ive seen is -$40k, it was posted in a thread about this over at 2+2
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-$40k?!?!?!?!?!!?! Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
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Originally Posted by TLR
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Oh, that was you. Thanks for the suckout. 
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Anyday...
Sorry for that, wrong time to blindsteal...
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Worst player ive ever played against is this guy:
dnd007
Games: 585
ROI: -30%
Income: -$5,904
Super Tilt
PokerStars
VPIP: 75%
PF Raise: 60%
Interesting...
I mean come on, wouldnt you stop playing and take up say.. reading? Its gotta be less expensive..
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wow! nice find!
Didn't know my stats were as good as they said... looks like the return to SNGs for a short stint was justified.
Why on earth do I bother keeping my own stats?
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Would you bone your cousins? Salsa would.
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well courtie, since we're both clear, would you accept an invitation for some unprotected sex?
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jdubs
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recently I was at a table where , no shit, 7 players had ROI between -25 and -50, with hundreds (if not thousands) of games played. It boggles the mind!
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jdubs
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how bout this guy?
10rick (PokerStars)
games played: 991
average profit -5$
avg stake. 11$
avg. ROI -49%
total profit: -5,039$
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givememyleg
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How can people continue to keep playing?
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taipan168
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I think they just don't realise the extent of their losses.
Somebody on 2+2 made a good point, when these guys suck out on you DON'T tell the table that they've lost $x thousand and that sort of play is why - you don't want them realising the awful truth then stopping donating their money.
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jdubs
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good point..... I usually keep quiet, and sometimes give someone respect in the chat when they have really good stats- usually dont say anything to the poor souls who have lost x thousand.
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Chris Moneymaker owns
Username games Av. Av. Average Profit
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Money800 62 -$83 $307 -8% -$5,177
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6tours4lance:
GP: 1122 Av Prft: -$5 Stake: $11 ROI: -%33 Profit: -$5518 
I cringed when I saw this dudes name when the tourney first started so I had to check him on Scope. Unreal.
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just a quick point...
Why do none of these tools like PT and sharkscope etc cater for the VC site?
I play most of my poker on VC (thats about to change though now iv found these tools lol) and was just wondering if anyone knew why these tools dont work on this site.
regards
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Originally Posted by Random_Hero
just a quick point...
Why do none of these tools like PT and sharkscope etc cater for the VC site?
I play most of my poker on VC (thats about to change though now iv found these tools lol) and was just wondering if anyone knew why these tools dont work on this site.
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The site needs to have good hand histories... (I'm not sure if VC has reasonable hand histories or not) But without good hand histories, the programs cant import... Also, for programs like sharkscope then need to have public MTT/SnG results.
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ok cheers...
looks like its time to change sites lol...
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My stats actually seem a little higher than I expected. Anyone know what the exact time frame for this is?
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Staresy
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Stars - started Feb '05, with full coverage since Jan '06.
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Laeelin
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Originally Posted by JeffreyGB
My stats actually seem a little higher than I expected. Anyone know what the exact time frame for this is?
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I know that mine is way off.. It shows my up less than 3k on stars... and thats way off.
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elite666
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Try looking up:
ElKy (the first player to reach supernova status on pokerstars)
The Grinder
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ilikeaces is a big fan of ElKy.
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zenbitz
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I hate sharkoscope. It reminds me that I don't beat the rake. However, my sample size is so smalll, I could literally win 4 $27s in a row to cover my rake losses.
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elite666
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Can someone please look up 'elky' and 'the grinder' and post results (i have used my 5 free for today)
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Sorry, I burned my 5 before I could search the grinder.
ElkY 4,860 -$10 $408 3% -$47,090 - PokerStars
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Code:
Username Games Played Av. Profit Av. Stake Av. ROI Total Profit Form Network Filter
ElkY 4,860 -$10 $408 3% -$47,090 - PokerStars x
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The Grinder 347 -$217 $3,197 0% -$75,365 - PokerStars
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