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mikeneron
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04-01-2008, 12:46 AM
Post subject: Moving from STTs
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Flush
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 366
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I would like to make the progression into more multi-table tournies. I strictly play only STTs at the moment and 4 at a time. I have recently tried a couple 180 person ones and don't think I am quite ready for those yet.
Would it be a good idea to progress through the following 18 > 27 > 45 > 180 > 1000+. Once I feel comfortable with each level, then move onto the next. Should I keep playing 4 of these at a time like I have been with the STTs?
I find in the STTs, you can play super super tight and do well, but in the 180 person ones I don't think playing super tight is beneficial as you have to keep accumulating chips to stay ahead of the blinds.
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bjsaust
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Straight Flush
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Ballarat, Australia
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I started this path a little while back, but stopped due to not much time for MTTs. Some things I picked up:
The changes to make arent as big as you'd think.
Tight is still right early, just not AS tight. Its fine to look at some cheap flops with drawing type hands. You worry a little less about being dominated with hands like AJ, AT etc.
Pot Odds matter.
No need to get too fancy, just play solid poker.
You're going to have to get lucky to make it to the FT, accept it. I could play 4 180s at once, bust OOTM on 3 of them getting my chips AI while ahead and being sucked out on, then FT the 4th after sucking out 3 times myself.
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Reidak
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Toronto
Posts: 566
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If you are asking about moving from sng's to mtt's, the differences are huge.
Sng's you don't play deep. In mtts you start deep, then depending on how things go, you may or may not be.
With sng's the table loses player and play becomes short handed with everyone having very low M's. In mtt's, the m's do drop (to a lesser extent) but the tables remain full or close to full (8 or 9 players).
This changes as say, in a 1000 player game, its down to 30. Now the concentration of chips is such that most of the other players have relativley high M's. You play deeper, and when there is alot of money to be won.
To be honest, you will probably get there and choke the first couple times. It just takes practice.
There is also a ton of strategical times that you don't run into in sng's. too busy to list.
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reprisal
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 106
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The early stages are basically the same. The end game is similar, but a little more complicated...with more reshoving and various stack sizes to contend with. The middle is probably the biggest adjustment.
So working up in size could help you phase in that portion. I kinda like the bigger ones more than the SNG MTTs tho. The more people in it, the more dead chips there are for you to work with and the more dead moneys to win
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rvrking22
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Straight
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 200
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Ok first question: I think moving up in level in terms of number of players is a waste of time. Buy-in to MTT that you can easily play in and not really effect your BR. This will throw you into the MTT arena where you will gain considerable experiance that is needed to do good at them. Instead of peddling around the 18-180 ( not saying its a bad thing..just a waste of time if your considering steering towards MTT). Next I would not recommend playing four at a time considering your really just starting with MTT....Get used to all the different situations that MTT have to offer and get a good feel for tournment play before even starting to multi-table them. Start with one and work your way up..SnG are much easier to multi than MTT.....based off my experiance...
I dont know if you were asking about if playing super tight through-out MTT is a good strategy like it is in SNG....the answer to that really depends on the situation. In the early going of a MTT tight is right....but that doesnt mean you have to be super-tight ( not saying you cant...I know tourney players who do and are solid players). If you can see a cheap flop in position with suited connectors, or low PP or Axs do so.. Implied odds are huge early on (especially in a Deep stack tourney)... Later in the touney when the avg. M is around 10-15...you have to loosen up and start playing more aggresive...im not goint to get into detail about tourney strategy but to answer the question of ,Is super tight the way to go through out the tourney..more than likely no..your going to have to be aggresive eventually....
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elipsesjeff
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Northern Virginia
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The OP had a good general idea, start with one table and work your way up.
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