Just one of those hands - $16 turbo, str8 on flush board

**TLR** · 01-27-2010 05:23 AM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 16 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (BB) (t1500)
UTG (t1860)
UTG+1 (t710)
MP1 (t1482)
MP2 (t1845)
MP3 (t1465)
CO (t2037)
Button (t1311)
SB (t1290)

Hero's M: 33.33

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

, 10

UTG calls t30, 6 folds, SB calls t15, Hero checks

Flop: (t90) 9

, 3

, Q

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t60, 1 fold, SB raises to t120, Hero calls t60

Turn: (t330) K

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t180, SB raises to t600, Hero ????

Total pot: t690

**IAM-member** · 01-27-2010 11:39 AM

he has Q9, KQ or 33 sooo much more often than flushes---->raise allin

**taipan168** · 01-27-2010 11:57 AM

Personally I think I would have just checked the flop and tried for a free card, particlarly because UTG is still to act.

Anyway, as played it is a bad spot. However, because opp raised on the flop I wonder whether he is more likely to have Qx, two pair or a set rather than a flush draw?

**TLR** · 01-27-2010 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by taipan168

Personally I think I would have just checked the flop and tried for a free card, particlarly because UTG is still to act.

Anyway, as played it is a bad spot. However, because opp raised on the flop I wonder whether he is more likely to have Qx, two pair or a set rather than a flush draw?

Do you think an opponent with Qx, 2 pair or a set would go for the check-raise on the turn as well ?

**lNormajean** · 01-27-2010 01:42 PM

reads would help, but its such a bizarre line with a flush draw on the flop. also im not sure if he would bet that much with a flush, looks like hes scared of the spade rather than in love with it. id probs get it in and if he had a flush then type some abuse in chat about how badly he played it in chat

**IAM-member** · 01-27-2010 07:12 PM

I think bet/call flop is fine. If villain is not an absolute donk he wont checkminraise flushdraws on flop--to me it looks like he wants value.
So imo his range is more KQ, Q9,33 or some random 2pair hands maybe 99 which we dominate. Thus shove it in, be happy, if he has flush don't berate him like normajean said. Fishiest line ever for a flush though.

**taipan168** · 01-27-2010 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by TLR

Do you think an opponent with Qx, 2 pair or a set would go for the check-raise on the turn as well ?

I agree with you that the check/raise on the turn makes Qx far less likely, but I could see him C/R the turn with KQ or a set

01-27-2010 05:23 AM #1
TLR View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Aug 2004 Posts 5,908	Just one of those hands - $16 turbo, str8 on flush board PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 16 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com Hero (BB) (t1500) UTG (t1860) UTG+1 (t710) MP1 (t1482) MP2 (t1845) MP3 (t1465) CO (t2037) Button (t1311) SB (t1290) Hero's M: 33.33 Preflop: Hero is BB with J, 10 UTG calls t30, 6 folds, SB calls t15, Hero checks Flop: (t90) 9, 3, Q (3 players) SB checks, Hero bets t60, 1 fold, SB raises to t120, Hero calls t60 Turn: (t330) K (2 players) SB checks, Hero bets t180, SB raises to t600, Hero ???? Total pot: t690

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01-27-2010 11:39 AM #2
IAM-member View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jan 2010 Posts 21	he has Q9, KQ or 33 sooo much more often than flushes---->raise allin

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01-27-2010 11:57 AM #3
taipan168 View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2005 Posts 10,571 Location Sydney	Personally I think I would have just checked the flop and tried for a free card, particlarly because UTG is still to act. Anyway, as played it is a bad spot. However, because opp raised on the flop I wonder whether he is more likely to have Qx, two pair or a set rather than a flush draw?

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01-27-2010 12:56 PM #4
TLR View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Aug 2004 Posts 5,908	Originally Posted by taipan168 Personally I think I would have just checked the flop and tried for a free card, particlarly because UTG is still to act. Anyway, as played it is a bad spot. However, because opp raised on the flop I wonder whether he is more likely to have Qx, two pair or a set rather than a flush draw? Do you think an opponent with Qx, 2 pair or a set would go for the check-raise on the turn as well ?

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01-27-2010 01:42 PM #5
lNormajean View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Feb 2009 Posts 103	reads would help, but its such a bizarre line with a flush draw on the flop. also im not sure if he would bet that much with a flush, looks like hes scared of the spade rather than in love with it. id probs get it in and if he had a flush then type some abuse in chat about how badly he played it in chat

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01-27-2010 07:12 PM #6
IAM-member View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jan 2010 Posts 21	I think bet/call flop is fine. If villain is not an absolute donk he wont checkminraise flushdraws on flop--to me it looks like he wants value. So imo his range is more KQ, Q9,33 or some random 2pair hands maybe 99 which we dominate. Thus shove it in, be happy, if he has flush don't berate him like normajean said. Fishiest line ever for a flush though.

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01-27-2010 08:19 PM #7
taipan168 View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2005 Posts 10,571 Location Sydney	Originally Posted by TLR Do you think an opponent with Qx, 2 pair or a set would go for the check-raise on the turn as well ? I agree with you that the check/raise on the turn makes Qx far less likely, but I could see him C/R the turn with KQ or a set

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