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Buxx
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08-07-2004, 09:11 PM
Post subject: Interesting Hand From FTR #4 on Stars
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 19
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PokerStars Game #599076702: Tournament #2241263, Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2004/08/07 - 15:48:24 (ET)
Table '2241263 3' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: michael f (1075 in chips)
Seat 2: djp021 (2825 in chips)
Seat 3: ripptyde (2505 in chips)
Seat 6: Buxx (2470 in chips)
Seat 7: fishstick666 (1280 in chips)
Seat 8: heat62 (1308 in chips)
Seat 9: johnnyawe (5562 in chips)
johnnyawe: posts small blind 50
michael f: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Buxx [Qh Qd]
djp021: folds
ripptyde: raises 200 to 300
Buxx: raises 700 to 1000
fishstick666: folds
heat62: folds
johnnyawe: folds
michael f: folds
ripptyde: calls 700
*** FLOP *** [8d Ks 3s]
ripptyde: bets 1505 and is all-in
Buxx: calls 1470 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [8d Ks 3s] [7s]
*** RIVER *** [8d Ks 3s 7s] [4s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ripptyde: shows [Tc Ac] (high card Ace)
Buxx: shows [Qh Qd] (a pair of Queens)
Buxx collected 5090 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5090 | Rake 0
Board [8d Ks 3s 7s 4s]
Seat 1: michael f (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: djp021 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ripptyde showed [Tc Ac] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 6: Buxx showed [Qh Qd] and won (5090) with a pair of Queens
Seat 7: fishstick666 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: heat62 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: johnnyawe (small blind) folded before Flop
I stand by my original assertian that my call was correct here, comments, of course, are welcome. I'll a more detailed reasoning after the tourney.
Buxx
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michael1123
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Rochester Hills, MI
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Against Ripp, yes, against most people, no. 
From what I've seen from Ripp, I don't think he shoves all in on real hands, he more slowplays them, and an all in immediately on the flop is likely to be a bluff.
On the other hand, I got knocked out by a guy (that I knew nothing about, and therefore had no read on) that shoved all in immediately with a set without even checking to Fishstick, the preflop raiser (who I was already planning on check raising against). I wouldn't play a set like that, and I doubt Ripp would either, so it fooled me into calling with TPTK.
If on the other hand, the guy checked it, Fishstick bet, I raised, and then he shoved all in, I wouldn't have called. So maybe there's something to the way he played it, as it did fool me into thinking he was semi-bluffing on a flush draw. I just like to ensure I'm going to get action more often than an all in would, when I have a monster hand.
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Buxx
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 19
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yeah, thats the big one. in order to try to pick off a bluff, you have to know your opponent is capable of bluffing.
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ArtHolmberg
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 37
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Looks like Rip's rag strategy *ahem* was a flop...
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"Look, here's the thing. If you can't spot the sucker within your first 30 minutes at the poker table, then you ARE the sucker."
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AllinLife
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Flush
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 530
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ok honestly the results of this poll will be biased after
rippys "Rags are beautiful" threads x 100
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"Is there any chance I'm going to lay this 9-high baby down? That's really not my style."
- Gus Hansen
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FyrFytr998
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Full House
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Milford,Ct.
Posts: 1,412
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Wow, the rag master got whupped.
Armegeddon is upon us all.!
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maxxscam
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Full House
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 733
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there was a similar hand where i had KK raised 1500 and had 1 caller flop A rag rag, and opponenet went all in, i folded in this situation because i knew the player had previosuly played ace rag to decent raises, and also hadnt shown any bluffs previosuly when he won hands, or bet out and was called, he always had a hand, basically you know rippy, and the fact that he doesnt like to let go of a hand he is invested in.
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fishstick
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Full House
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Carlsbad, CA
Posts: 1,405
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i've said it before:
"if rippy raises, call, if rippy just calls or checks, beware!"
i would have made the same call (against rippy) - not so sure with anyone else.
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