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  1. #1

    Default If this was ring...

    ...it's a call.

    But is calling here bad for tournament play?

    Party Poker
    No Limit Holdem Tournament
    Blinds: t50/t100
    7 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    UTG: t2010
    UTG+1: t2430
    MP1: t2790
    CO: t2170
    Hero: t2350
    SB: t3400
    BB: t4850

    Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is Button with 3 K
    4 folds, Hero raises to t300, SB folds, BB calls t200 (pot was t450).

    Flop: 5 7 6 (t650, 2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets t400, BB raises all-in t4550, Hero calls all-in t1650.
    Uncalled bets: t2500 returned to BB.

    Turn: K (t4750, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t4750)

    River: 6 (t4750, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t4750)

    Results:
    Final pot: t4750
    Blah blah Op Blah blah

    Faith in Jesus Christ is +EV. That is all.
  2. #2
    Looks like a fairly easy call since the 4s are probably outs too and there's loads of dead money in the pot.

    What converter are you using to convert the party HHs?
  3. #3
    LOL, if you click on the link where it say converter.

    {arh}
    Blah blah Op Blah blah

    Faith in Jesus Christ is +EV. That is all.
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Anosmic
    LOL, if you click on the link where it say converter.

    {arh}


    Thanks
  5. #5
    ICM says you need to be better than 43% to win to call the all in. I just ran the odds calculator for like 10 different possible opponent hands to see how your hand would fare against those, and I had them all listed, but my computer just froze so I lost them. I'm not going to redo them, but the bottom line was that if the opponent has a made set or better, you don't have the odds to call the all in. If he has 2 pair, then it is borderline. If he has 88 and one is not the 8 of clubs, then you barely have odds--but if one is the 8 of clubs, you don't have the odds. If he has AA or KK and no club, it is a call, but if one is the club, it is a no call. If he has any other pair it is a call for you. If he has the nut flush draw, then it's a no call for you. If he has any straight draw you have the odds.

    I have a problem putting him on AA or KK here, since he didn't raise pre-flop. The problem is that the all in raise by him could mean any of the other hands: 99-JJ, flush draw, made straight, top pair, two pair, set--some of those you have odds to call and some of those you don't. I would probably be a puss and lay it.

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