Did I play this too passive?

I don't mind just calling that river early on. You played this fine.

I think you need to push there to be honest. Why? Because

a) you started with 1790 in chips, and had already invested 20 preflop, 200 on the flop, 500 on the turn..so you had already invested 720 of your 1790 chips, leaving you with 1070 chips for that river. To just call 360 would give you 710 to be left with if you do not have the best hand, but would give you a 2240 pot on top of the 710 to give you a 2950 stack. If you push you would have an even more dominant stack of 3660, especially with only 10/20 blinds.

b) because it's a sit n go. I would much rather have a 3.6k stack than a 700 stack, because I can take over the tournament when i have a big stack early. I don't mind risking busting out here because I know you are rolled for these so it shouldn't be a problem just loading another one up.

c) If you look at the board, there is absolutely 0% chance that that river could have made his hand better than yours. Therefore if you have the worst hand, you had the worst hand before the river too. Because of this, I would definitely push 100% of the time in your situation.

However, you did play this well preflop and on the flop and turn. Just outta curiosity, what was he holding? Later bro.

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Originally Posted by dodgerfan29

b) because it's a sit n go. I would much rather have a 3.6k stack than a 700 stack, because I can take over the tournament when i have a big stack early. I don't mind risking busting out here because I know you are rolled for these so it shouldn't be a problem just loading another one up.

? This confuses me. You're either going to have a 3.6k stack or a 0k stack if he calls the river push. By saying you'd rather have 3.6k vs a 700, yeah who wouldn't.. But it's not like it's one or the other, if you get what I'm saying.

I definitely don't think a river push is bad here at all though. At the 11 levels, a pair of aces could call you.

While 'we can always fire up another one' and 'mmmm, more chips!' shouldn't be stand-alone variables in evaluating the EV of a decision...I do like pushing behind.

1-What beats me? & What is the likelihood I'm beat?
2-What calls my push?

There are times when despite sailing through the first, calling behind is still correct because of the latter.

This isn't one of those cases IMO. We can assume an over-set is showing himself on the flop - or certainly the turn. Ditto had the turn filled his SD. Baring some goofy, misguided trap, this river is only making one hand: 46. If he has it..."nh" (considering flop+turn, rediculously unlikely).

What calls the push? Honestly, if it wasn't for that Ace on the board - perhaps not much.

But with the strength you continued to show on the turn, this little block lead is not indicative of a busted draw (as he doesn't stand a chance in having you fold) -- not near as much as the rag-Ace "I really want to quit putting in an ass-load of chips, here take these, let me see what you'got" lead.

Push away!

Ps. Very healthy habit though to not knee-jerk these river decisions. Nice hand.

Due to the way I play, I would have a huge advantage by building up a 3.6k stack that early in a sng. That is all I'm saying. My style is to play as aggressive as I can and get all my chips in with a set or an overpair to the board in the early stages of a sit n go, because more times than not you will have the best hand and you can do a lot of damage once you become a big stack, as opposed to having to grind your say through the next 2 or 3 levels as a short stack ninja.

What calls my push? Well answer this...why on earth would you raise more than the pot on the flop and then bet basically the pot on the turn to not commit the rest of your chips when the river is a blank?

I get what you are saying give but what I'm saying is I don't mind taking a chance of busting with a set in order to build up a 3.6k stack, if that makes sense.

dodger...not sure if your reply was to me or not. i also advocate pushing behind on the river.

yeah i got that, was just going more into my reasoning on the second of the questions that you should ask before making that push. and yes i agree with those questions too that you should figure that out before making your move.

I would push, too. In general, if I have a set vs. two pair I am going to second-guess myself for not getting all his chips.