Originally Posted by Toadstool

for hand #1, Firstly what would he play like that? set on a board like that? call or small raise. 2 pair? he wouldnt limp with J6, TPTK? from what iv'e seen he would have bet out. From his point of view havent shown strength preflop, also he has seen 3 checks and then a bet from the last player to act which may look to him like a blatent steal.

Hand #2 - generally in the earlier stages (first two hours) i play very passively preflop with two unpaired high cards, i like to invest as little as possible unless I can make a hand, and if i do make a hand, i can generally get paid off or release it if i think its second best, I think i play passively preflop based on when i first started playing i played almost exclusively at $25NL, and soon learned that there was no value in raising preflop with 2 high cards - you miss the flop they are extremely hard to bluff so i like to make a hand before commiting more chips than i have to.

From his point of view - EP limper he probably thinks PP or an ace, he sees me bet into a lot of players and so probably puts me on TPGK. He then raises me a callable amount.

Originally Posted by stranglin

Hand #1 - I would fold. Your hand may be good, but at this point, I don't think it's worth finding out.

Hand #2 - I would go all in. Raising preflop would have made your desicion easier because you would have reduced the number of hands your opponent could have. However, TPTK is pretty good. I think you're good here, and I'd push.