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mxiu
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10-16-2009, 02:39 AM
Post subject: Close to the bubble, live KQo BvB
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Full House
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Blinds are are 1500/3000, 200 ante. $1000+$100 buyin, 110 players. Top 11 get paid, 15 players left.
Hero is BB and is sitting with 55K in chips, SB has 40K.
Hero is dealt KQo, and has been active in the past, but as of late, table image has cleaned up. Villain has been pretty standard with his steals, once an orbit, nothing out of line and has been going 2-2.5x'ish when stealing.
Folds to SB, SB raises to 10,000. Hero?
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revolvingiris
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Full House
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I think this is pretty gross as all you can do is either shove or fold. If villains typical preflop bet range is for steals then this looks like a real hand.
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fjuanl
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4-of-a-Kind
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I dont have any live experience but if I had to guess you would see an average player raise/fold here more than you would online, so I'd shove
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only_bridge
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3-of-a-Kind
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Tough spot. I would probably fold this. He has invested 1/4 of his stack, decreasing our fold equity if we push, and its difficult to see how KQo can be favourite in a showdown here.
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revolvingiris
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Full House
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fjuanl did you see that villain bet 1/4th of their chip stack?
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mxiu
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Full House
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If SB went 7500, is this an ez shove over?
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courtiebee
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WELP
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So you guys think that this villain is raising more BVB with a real hand and raising less when he's stealing?
No history BVB before this hand? I'd be more likely to give him credit if he's walked me a couple times. Without any BVB history, I push because I think he folds a lot of hands in this spot.
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revolvingiris
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Full House
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I think 7500 would make it easier from a leveling point of view. I don't really like shoving my stack into non-balanced lines I know nothing about.
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mxiu
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Full House
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Is the consensus basically fold?
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drmcboy
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DrButtInski
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I'll be difficult and say call, we have a good price to hit TP and he may give up on a lot of flops.
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exsentrik
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you fold here for sure. The guy either has a pair or an ace. Do you really want to get into a coin flip so close to the bubble when your still got a alot of chips here? Find a better spot.
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G2G
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its really hard for me to give you a good anwser here with out knowing how this player plays his blind vs blind spots. As a standard play here i would 3 bet get it in here because i cant take weaker kings and weak aces that he may fold out of his range.
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