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Old 09-07-2004, 09:11 PM     Post subject: Changing Gears in SnG #1 (permalink)  
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Everyone knows they are supposed do it. This is the first time I've ever done it this dramatically, deciding "OK the next 5-6 hands are going to be tight/passive" only varying with monsters. And then I'd decide "OK a few high-aggresion hands". The only reason I'm posting this is because I've never really thought of this (the on/off hands all put together) as such a strong tool before now.

The reason I did it this way was his 3:1 chip lead when we got heads up. I knew that if I came out aggresive as I normally do HU, he would have a normal strategy for playing aggresive players. He was a fairly good player up until now, so Im sure he had seen both aggressive and passive styles, and knew how to play both. I wanted to develop a weak/passive image from the start, so he would try to bully me around. There were a couple hands, where I check-raised or re-raised him with something very solid; but I think he would chalk that up to the rare occasions that someone gets a monster. He kept right on playing his bully strategy, just like I wanted him to play.

Something I found interesting: After looking over all the numbers, my passively played hands were only down 450 in chips. By passive hands, I mean a hand that could easily have been started by an early or PF raise. My aggressive hands of course were up 10540. Unless you include #80 as passive, because I check-raised the turn to appear weak after he had called on the flop. This would put the passive hands at +5510, and the aggressive at +4780.

I know some people are to lazy/busy to read the whole hand history. Go to hand #80 to see the results of my new-found tool.

The first five hands were trash anyway, so I considered them an investment in my image.

*********** # 58 **************
Seat 1: SteveDonel (3310 in chips)
Seat 8: Kahlan2000 (10190 in chips)
Kahlan2000: posts small blind 75
SteveDonel: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SteveDonel [2c 9s]
Kahlan2000: calls 75
SteveDonel: checks
*** FLOP *** [6d 5s Ad]
SteveDonel: checks
Kahlan2000: bets 450
SteveDonel: folds Net -150

*********** # 59 **************
Seat 1: SteveDonel (3160 in chips)
Seat 8: Kahlan2000 (10340 in chips)
SteveDonel: posts small blind 100
Kahlan2000: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SteveDonel [5c 7d]
SteveDonel: raises 200 to 400
Kahlan2000: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [4c Qs 2s]
Kahlan2000: checks
SteveDonel: checks
*** TURN *** [4c Qs 2s] [Td]
Kahlan2000: bets 800
SteveDonel: folds net -400
Just to make him think I would still fold a good hand, even after I raised


*********** # 60 **************
Seat 1: SteveDonel (2760 in chips)
Seat 8: Kahlan2000 (10740 in chips)
Kahlan2000: posts small blind 100
SteveDonel: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SteveDonel [4d Ts]
Kahlan2000: calls 100
SteveDonel: checks
*** FLOP *** [3d Ks 9c]
SteveDonel: checks
Kahlan2000: bets 800
SteveDonel: folds net -200

*********** # 61 **************
Seat 1: SteveDonel (2560 in chips)
Seat 8: Kahlan2000 (10940 in chips)
SteveDonel: posts small blind 100
Kahlan2000: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SteveDonel [3s 9d]
SteveDonel: folds net -100

*********** # 62 **************
PokerStars Game #673179831: Tournament #2592197, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2004/09/07 - 01:07:05 (ET)
Table '2592197 1' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: SteveDonel (2460 in chips)
Seat 8: Kahlan2000 (11040 in chips)
Kahlan2000: posts small blind 100
SteveDonel: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SteveDonel [2h 6c]
Kahlan2000: calls 100
SteveDonel: checks
*** FLOP *** [Kh 3c 5c]
SteveDonel: checks
Kahlan2000: checks
*** TURN *** [Kh 3c 5c] [4h]
SteveDonel: checks
Kahlan2000: checks
*** RIVER *** [Kh 3c 5c 4h] [3h]
SteveDonel: bets 200
Kahlan2000: folds net +200
I showed him this one to make him think I was waiting for the big stuff only

*********** # 63 **************
Seat 1: SteveDonel (2660 in chips)
Seat 8: Kahlan2000 (10840 in chips)
SteveDonel: posts small blind 100
Kahlan2000: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SteveDonel [Qd 4d]
SteveDonel: raises 200 to 400
Kahlan2000: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [Ac 9d Qs]
Kahlan2000: bets 800
SteveDonel: raises 1460 to 2260 and is all-in
Kahlan2000: folds
SteveDonel collected 2400 from pot Net +1200
Switch on my aggression. As timid as I had been playing, there is no way he would have raised that much with the Ace. So my PFR, with my very tight image that I had developed, paid off with the opportunity to rep the Ace

*********** # 64 **************
Seat 1: SteveDonel (3860 in chips)
Seat 8: Kahlan2000 (9640 in chips)
Kahlan2000: posts small blind 100
SteveDonel: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SteveDonel [Ks 9c]
Kahlan2000: calls 100
SteveDonel: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ac Tc 5c]
SteveDonel: checks
Kahlan2000: checks
*** TURN *** [Ac Tc 5c] [Jh]
SteveDonel: bets 500
Kahlan2000: folds net +200
Keep that aggression going a little

*********** # 65 **************
Seat 1: SteveDonel (4060 in chips)
Seat 8: Kahlan2000 (9440 in chips)
SteveDonel: posts small blind 100
Kahlan2000: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SteveDonel [8d Th]
SteveDonel: calls 100
Kahlan2000: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qh 7c Ac]
Kahlan2000: checks
SteveDonel: checks
*** TURN *** [Qh 7c Ac] [Jd]
Kahlan2000: checks
SteveDonel: checks
*** RIVER *** [Qh 7c Ac Jd] [5s]
Kahlan2000: checks
SteveDonel: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Kahlan2000: shows [7h 2s] (a pair of Sevens)
SteveDonel: mucks hand net -200
back to the timid, check/fold player

*********** # 66 **************
Seat 1: SteveDonel (3860 in chips)
Seat 8: Kahlan2000 (9640 in chips)
Kahlan2000: posts small blind 100
SteveDonel: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SteveDonel [Qs 6c]
Kahlan2000: calls 100
SteveDonel: checks
*** FLOP *** [9s 6h 2s]
SteveDonel: bets 200
Kahlan2000: folds net +200
Aggression back on

*********** # 67 **************
Seat 1: SteveDonel (4060 in chips)
Seat 8: Kahlan2000 (9440 in chips)
SteveDonel: posts small blind 100
Kahlan2000: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SteveDonel [Kd 4h]
SteveDonel: raises 400 to 600
Kahlan2000: folds net +200

*********** # 68 **************
Seat 1: SteveDonel (4260 in chips)
Seat 8: Kahlan2000 (9240 in chips)
Kahlan2000: posts small blind 100
SteveDonel: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SteveDonel [5h 8s]
Kahlan2000: calls 100
SteveDonel: checks
*** FLOP *** [8c 6d Qd]
SteveDonel: checks
Kahlan2000: bets 400
SteveDonel: raises 600 to 1000
Kahlan2000: folds net +600
OK 3 aggresive hands in a row was kinda pushing it and I had made up some ground on my chip position. So after this, I went back to the timid 5 y.o little girl that he was used to playing

*********** # 69 **************
Seat 1: SteveDonel (4860 in chips)
Seat 8: Kahlan2000 (8640 in chips)
SteveDonel: posts small blind 100
Kahlan2000: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SteveDonel [7c 2d]
SteveDonel: folds net -100
that wasnt a very tough investment decision

*********** # 70 **************
Seat 1: SteveDonel (4760 in chips)
Seat 8: Kahlan2000 (8740 in chips)
Kahlan2000: posts small blind 100
SteveDonel: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SteveDonel [8d 8s]
Kahlan2000: calls 100
SteveDonel: raises 400 to 600
Kahlan2000: folds net +200
gotta raise pairs, i'll get back to the image later

*********** # 71 **************
Seat 1: SteveDonel (4960 in chips)
Seat 8: Kahlan2000 (8540 in chips)
SteveDonel: posts small blind 100
Kahlan2000: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SteveDonel [Qs Jd]
SteveDonel: raises 400 to 600
Kahlan2000: folds net +200

*********** # 72 **************
Seat 1: SteveDonel (5160 in chips)
Seat 8: Kahlan2000 (8340 in chips)
Kahlan2000: posts small blind 100
SteveDonel: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SteveDonel [9d 9h]
Kahlan2000: calls 100
SteveDonel: checks
*** FLOP *** [3s 8d 4h]
SteveDonel: bets 400
Kahlan2000: raises 800 to 1200
SteveDonel: raises 3760 to 4960 and is all-in
Kahlan2000: folds net +1400
Though all that image work is paying off, who cares about image when I'm getting pocket pairs every other hand?!?! And an over pair at that!

*********** # 73 **************
Seat 1: SteveDonel (6560 in chips)
Seat 8: Kahlan2000 (6940 in chips)
SteveDonel: posts small blind 100
Kahlan2000: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SteveDonel [2d 5h]
SteveDonel: folds net -100
Nonetheless, I am sticking to my plan of tight/passive image. These next few hands sucked anyway

*********** # 74 **************
Seat 1: SteveDonel (6460 in chips)
Seat 8: Kahlan2000 (7040 in chips)
Kahlan2000: posts small blind 100
SteveDonel: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SteveDonel [6c 3h]
Kahlan2000: calls 100
SteveDonel: checks
*** FLOP *** [8d Ts 3d]
SteveDonel: checks
Kahlan2000: bets 800
SteveDonel: folds net -200
All the more reason to fold a pair of 3s

*********** # 75 **************
Seat 1: SteveDonel (6260 in chips)
Seat 8: Kahlan2000 (7240 in chips)
SteveDonel: posts small blind 100
Kahlan2000: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SteveDonel [5h 4s]
SteveDonel: calls 100
Kahlan2000: raises 400 to 600
SteveDonel: folds net -200
I only called so he could push me out of the hand anyway

*********** # 76 **************
Seat 1: SteveDonel (6060 in chips)
Seat 8: Kahlan2000 (7440 in chips)
Kahlan2000: posts small blind 100
SteveDonel: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SteveDonel [3d 4h]
Kahlan2000: calls 100
SteveDonel: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ac Ks 4d]
SteveDonel: bets 200
Kahlan2000: folds
SteveDonel collected 400 from pot net +200
A small semi-bluff, to make it look like that's how I would bet my high pairs. I wanted him to push back, to reinforce his bullying. Oh well.....

*********** # 77 **************
Seat 1: SteveDonel (6260 in chips)
Seat 8: Kahlan2000 (7240 in chips)
SteveDonel: posts small blind 100
Kahlan2000: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SteveDonel [9c 3h]
SteveDonel: folds net -100

*********** # 78 **************
Seat 1: SteveDonel (6160 in chips)
Seat 8: Kahlan2000 (7340 in chips)
Kahlan2000: posts small blind 100
SteveDonel: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SteveDonel [Ks 2h]
Kahlan2000: calls 100
SteveDonel: raises 400 to 600
Kahlan2000: folds net +200
Aggression time, woo-hoo

*********** # 79 **************
Seat 1: SteveDonel (6360 in chips)
Seat 8: Kahlan2000 (7140 in chips)
SteveDonel: posts small blind 100
Kahlan2000: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SteveDonel [Qh Tc]
SteveDonel: calls 100
Kahlan2000: raises 400 to 600
SteveDonel: calls 400
*** FLOP *** [3d 7d Jc]
Kahlan2000: bets 2000
SteveDonel: folds net -600
I figured I was beat on the flop, but wanted him to see me in a hand at the turn, so I could fold to his much larger raise. I needed him to try this later, which lo and behold is right around the corner.

*********** # 80 **************
Seat 1: SteveDonel (5760 in chips)
Seat 8: Kahlan2000 (7740 in chips)
SteveDonel: posts the ante 25
Kahlan2000: posts the ante 25
Kahlan2000: posts small blind 100
SteveDonel: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SteveDonel [5d Td]
Kahlan2000: calls 100
SteveDonel: checks
*** FLOP *** [Kd 6h 2d]
SteveDonel: bets 600
Kahlan2000: raises 600 to 1200
SteveDonel: calls 600
*** TURN *** [Kd 6h 2d] [Jd]
SteveDonel: checks
Kahlan2000: bets 3000
SteveDonel: raises 1335 to 4335 and is all-in
Kahlan2000: calls 1335
*** RIVER *** [Kd 6h 2d Jd] [3s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SteveDonel: shows [5d Td] (a flush, King high)
Kahlan2000: shows [9h 6d] (a pair of Sixes)
SteveDonel collected 11520 from pot net +5760
All that image work pays off after only 22 hands. Betting the pot with 3rd pair? Not a normal player, only one who thinks he can bully you because the scare cards. 8-) The best part about this hand was when he bet the 3000, I clicked the raise button before I could even read how much he had bet; it was so fast, he had to know he was screwed.

*********** # 81 **************
PokerStars Game #673201228: Tournament #2592197, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2004/09/07 - 01:16:49 (ET)
Table '2592197 1' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: SteveDonel (11520 in chips)
Seat 8: Kahlan2000 (1980 in chips)
SteveDonel: posts the ante 25
Kahlan2000: posts the ante 25
SteveDonel: posts small blind 100
Kahlan2000: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SteveDonel [Th 8h]
SteveDonel: raises 400 to 600
Kahlan2000: folds net +200
Once I gained this ~6:1 chip lead, its was gonna be all-aggression all-day. Because, I already knew I'm a better player than him, from watching him the 60 hands before HU.

*********** # 82 **************
Seat 1: SteveDonel (11745 in chips)
Seat 8: Kahlan2000 (1755 in chips)
SteveDonel: posts the ante 25
Kahlan2000: posts the ante 25
Kahlan2000: posts small blind 100
SteveDonel: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SteveDonel [7h 7c]
Kahlan2000: raises 1530 to 1730 and is all-in
SteveDonel: calls 1530
*** FLOP *** [Jd 3h 7d]
SteveDonel said, "gg"
*** TURN *** [Jd 3h 7d] [5c]
*** RIVER *** [Jd 3h 7d 5c] [Jc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SteveDonel: shows [7h 7c] (a full house, Sevens full of Jacks)
Kahlan2000: shows [Qc 8c] (a pair of Jacks)
Kahlan2000 said, "u2"
SteveDonel collected 3510 from pot

I guess he still thought I was a timid player, because he still tried to bully me. Oops

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Old 09-07-2004, 09:37 PM #2 (permalink)  
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its was gonna be all-aggression all-day
Intersting, I've never put THAT much thought into my gear shifting in SnG's but maybe next few I will.

THanks for the examples.
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intresting post steve. I'm gonna try to focus more and do the whole

table image thing next time im hu
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Old 09-08-2004, 03:18 PM #4 (permalink)  
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The "all aggression, all day" comment was after i gained the big chip lead. I decided to just go with the momentum and chip stacks; image didnt matter at that point.

This passive image seems to work best once it's down to 2-3 players, because they already want to be aggressive and I just give them permission. Typically, players will try to develop the loose/aggressive image, in order to get action when they bet with good hands. I played my strategy in two SnGs last night, when we got short handed. I got more action from 3 different players with crappy hands, than I have ever gotten with my previous monsters. Such as:

*********** # 123 **************
Seat 2: RDU $teve (5150 in chips)
Seat 6: Conejo13 (8350 in chips)
RDU $teve: posts the ante 25
Conejo13: posts the ante 25
RDU $teve: posts small blind 200
Conejo13: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RDU $teve [As Qs]
RDU $teve: calls 200
Conejo13: raises 400 to 800
RDU $teve: calls 400
*** FLOP *** [Qd 6h Th]
Conejo13: bets 1200
RDU $teve: raises 1600 to 2800
Conejo13: raises 1600 to 4400
RDU $teve: calls 1525 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [Qd 6h Th] [Tc]
*** RIVER *** [Qd 6h Th Tc] [Kd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Conejo13: shows [5c 5s] (two pair, Tens and Fives)
RDU $teve: shows [As Qs] (two pair, Queens and Tens)
RDU $teve collected 10300 from pot

Again, no normal player would play a pocket pair, with two overs on the board, this way unless he thought I was afraid of him. They lose the game to me, and go away thinking "wow that tight dumbass just got really lucky and hit some major hands against me" So much fun

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