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Old 10-11-2009, 05:19 AM     Post subject: AQ tough play... #1 (permalink)  
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6max, 4 players are playing standard for the most part .. SB is a solid player, multi tabling (im playin with him at 2 other tables at this point) .. can i call these all ins? am i priced in?

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Hero (SB) (t3545)
BB (t1445)
UTG (t1230)
MP (t1085)
Button (t1695)

Hero's M: 78.78

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, A
UTG bets t60, 2 folds, Hero raises to t180, BB calls t150, UTG calls t120

Flop: (t540) 2, 4, Q (3 players)
Hero bets t360, BB raises to t1265 (All-In), UTG calls t1050 (All-In), Hero ???
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Old 10-11-2009, 07:42 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Personally I would not 3-bet an UTG raise from a solid player with AQs. Against a LAGG I would flat and see if I can hit an A or Q on the flop, against a solid player I would just let it go.

As played, I guess the lead is OK but once you get shoved over on AND there's a cold caller, you're beat, let it go
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Old 10-11-2009, 09:04 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Since you are the SB I assume you meant UTG is a solid player

What range of hands do you think UTG will raise-call preflop and then call 2 a bet and an AI raise on the flop
QQ is possible, AQ is possible, slowplaying KK/AA is less likely, AK heart is also a possibility and maybe also KJh.

I dont see a raise from UTG with 22 or 44.

BB I have no idea what he has it is very possible he has Q with a worse kicker.

Assuming you have BB beat there are 3000 in the main pot at 215 in the side pot, you need to call 905 (690 + 215)

Hand 0: 18.273% 18.09% 00.19% 2686 27.50 { AdQd }
Hand 1: 81.727% 81.54% 00.19% 12109 27.50 { QQ+, 44, AhKh, KhJh }

Given the side pot and the fact that you can take the hit to your stack I think I call this, but it is very close


 
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Old 10-12-2009, 06:23 AM #4 (permalink)  
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yea it was late, haha i meant BB was actually a solid player .. UTG was playing pretty standardish .. i should start playing with a HUD so i can show stats that would prolly help with the replies but i dont .. anyway with the $$ in the pot i agree its close, if i have one on a Q and the other a flush draw i would have to call here right?? the only thing im crushed here by is a set which is highly unlikely, 22 44 dont raise in those spots, QQ maybe.

on a side note, if im ITM consistently with good ROI lately concentrating on the $13 6max SNGs without a HUD, would i be even better with a HUD especially if i move up to the $25/$38s?? i only play 2 tables at a time, anything more and my ROI goes down significantly .. thoughts??
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Old 10-12-2009, 06:45 AM #5 (permalink)  
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i cant anwser in terms of 6max sngs, but a hud does help but for me it was different way than i thought it would be...

For example, the numbers dont give you a clear exact read or change my overall strategy but they really come in handy late when i have been multitabling and if i havnt been takin notes... if i see someone open who is playing tight, im going to open really liberally and easily fold hands like a-10 and aj that wouldve been otherwise insta ships....seems obvious but i would definitely consider the hud if your multi tabling...still feel like im not usuing it to its potential too
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Old 10-13-2009, 07:11 AM #6 (permalink)  
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yea i had the free trial from poker tracker for 3 months but i wasnt playing alot at the time so basically it was a waste. i pretty much did the same thing, i didnt change my game but if i was sitting for awhile and saw the stats, i would play accordingly. it spots out the loose/tight players when multitabling. i didnt use it really in sngs or mtts either, back than i was just playin cash. so thats why i asked, especially since im doing well without it. i guess it cant hurt to have. ill prolly open another thread just to see other thoughts...
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