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Old 12-02-2008, 10:41 AM     Post subject: Am I playing JJ for set value here? #1 (permalink)  
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With no reads, I want to learn toward fold but I hate to give up my overpair so quickly. With no real draws this felft like a value bet from AA/KK. (I think QQ would have bet it harder)
There are few I get value from by raising this flop so...but if I raise and he pushes over I can guess he likely has an overpair...um call?

Seat 1: robaldo (5,775)
Seat 2: bubbleobill (2,830)
Seat 3: SurelyACES (870)
Seat 5: renoir7 (1,555)
Seat 6: CNOTE0508 (4,640)
Seat 7: killcrazy (4,925)
Seat 8: baudib1 (7,385)
Seat 9: LeFTyNGa (2,190)
SurelyACES posts the small blind of 40
renoir7 posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to baudib1 [Js Jh]
CNOTE0508 folds
killcrazy raises to 240
baudib1 calls 240
LeFTyNGa folds
robaldo calls 240
bubbleobill folds
SurelyACES folds
renoir7 calls 160
*** FLOP *** [6s 2h 8c]
renoir7 checks
killcrazy bets 580
baudib1 ???
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I understand where you're coming from but I think I'd still call and fold to further action (unless the short stacked BB goes all-in, I'd call him).
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Yeah I called two more suck bets and lost half my stack here.

JJ is a tough hand to play here. Am I OK in thinking:

QQ I reraise preflop 70 percent of the time and get it all in on the flop.

TT/99 I call the flop bet and probably fold the turn.

JJ with 1500 chips and I'm all-in on the flop.

JJ with these stack sizes I'm in no-man's land.
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