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pokernewb
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07-03-2009, 11:15 AM
Post subject: AK first hand, flopped ace, opp raises me on turn
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Straight
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 137
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Wasn't sure what to do here. Is it likely he called PF with 44, 66, A4s, or A6s?
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 6+0.50 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
saw flop
SB (t1500)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
Hero (MP2) (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)
CO (t1500)
Button (t1500)
Hero's M: 33.33
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K , A
3 folds, Hero bets t90, MP3 calls t90, 4 folds
Flop: (t225) 4 , 6, A (2 players)
Hero bets t150, MP3 calls t150
Turn: (t525) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets t300, MP3 raises to t780, Hero folds
Total pot: t1125
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taipan168
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Dude, never fold here without a REALLY good read (like opp is a winning multitabler with whom you have a thousand or more hands and a solid read that he'd never have anything that didn't beat TPTK here).
I fist pump shove over against an unknown - he could have all sorts of hands that you beat (think Ax, pocket pairs 77-KK, flush draws, 7x, 3x, the list goes on).
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kmind
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Straight Flush
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I'm confused. Seems like we are beat here to me. The range you (taipan) list seems very unlikely he'd ever raise the turn as played. Maybe these players are really ridiculous but I'm b/f the turn
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lNormajean
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3-of-a-Kind
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by kmind
I'm confused. Seems like we are beat here to me. The range you (taipan) list seems very unlikely he'd ever raise the turn as played. Maybe these players are really ridiculous but I'm b/f the turn
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you are definately confusing a standard $6 turbo player with someone that actually thinks about poker
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taipan168
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by kmind
I'm confused. Seems like we are beat here to me. The range you (taipan) list seems very unlikely he'd ever raise the turn as played. Maybe these players are really ridiculous but I'm b/f the turn
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When I used to play the $6.50s (which admittedly is some time ago) you'd see players pull this move with all kinds of non-two pair Ax hands, pocket pairs and other weird hands that we beat trying to be all tricky on the turn.
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kmind
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Straight Flush
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You obv. can't fold then but man even the worst of the donks in cash games don't do this without two-pair plus. EZ game imo.
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baudib
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If effective stacks were 100 BBs you could think about a fold.
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Playing big pots at small stakes.
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TLR
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Dont fold in this spot.
It is possible that he had 55 or A5 and the 5 helped him in any way, but he could do it also with tons of hands that you beat
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