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Danh Bai
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12-31-2008, 03:37 PM
Post subject: 55 vs. minbet on K high flop
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Straight
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 166
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Was this a bad place to put my chips? With his donk bet I knew he was weak (unless he was slow playing). I was putting him on unimproved AX. Would a stronger bet have been more effective, or should i have just saved the chips for a better spot?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $3.00+$0.40 Tournament, 100/200 Blinds (4 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (Button) (t2725)
SB (t3215)
BB (t3235)
UTG (t4325)
Hero's M: 9.08
Preflop: Hero is Button with  , 
UTG raises to t400, Hero calls t400, 2 folds
Flop: (t1100)  ,  ,  (2 players)
UTG bets t200, Hero raises to t600, UTG calls t400
Turn: (t2300)  (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks
River: (t2300)  (2 players)
UTG bets t800, Hero folds
Total pot: t2300
Results:
UTG had A , 10 (one pair, tens).
Outcome: UTG won t2300
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Dueces88
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Join Date: Dec 2008
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What donk bet? He was the PFR and he CBet the flop. It was an incredibly weak CBet, which at this stake, completely reveals his hand so the flop raise is alright. From my experiences, players like this probably wouldn't fold to a shove on the flop with their Ace-high/Gutshot
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taipan168
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Fold preflop - you don't have implied odds to call the raise and play for set value (in fact, you don't even really have express odds).
As played, considering your stack size, I probably just call the donkminbet and try to get to showdown as cheap as possible (unless of course we hit a 5 on the turn or river).
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baudib
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Aug 2005
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ya fold preflop. If it folded to you I'd push but you can never burn off this much of your stack with 55 with two people left to act. Doing it on the bubble is really awful.
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Playing big pots at small stakes.
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TLR
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It is a raise/fold situation preflop IMO
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gingerwizard
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Fold pre, shoving is better than calling. Flop minbet says nothing other than opp uses the raise button and doesn't set the amounts. Note he did same pre, and that a lot of players do this.
55 is weak post flop and we're going to war with big stack on the bubble with it. Anyone see a problem here?
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baudib
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ya, and I'm one of those types who never think they have the king (always think they have the A though) but folding all streets is the way to go.
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Playing big pots at small stakes.
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Nakamura
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I fold pre-flop here. 55 isn't strong enough to push on the bubble and you can't call for set value.
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