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vqc
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03-31-2006, 09:00 AM
Post subject: 22s. A7 River check.
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***** Hand History for Game 3857748750 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $22 Buy-in Trny:21549504 Level:3 Blinds(50/100) - Friday, March 31, 03:30:22 ET 2006
Table Speed High Adventure (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: ferhye ( $1765 )
Seat 2: lvstrg ( $1890 )
Seat 3: maxitremblay ( $2490 )
Seat 4: thevoice29 ( $3175 )
Seat 8: strumphus ( $1700 )
Seat 9: newjimjones ( $1200 )
Seat 10: thiatanium ( $3720 )
Seat 6: TheBoneHer ( $1940 )
Seat 7: fisheater10 ( $2120 )
Trny:21549504 Level:3
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TheBoneHer [ 7s Ad ]
fisheater10 folds.
strumphus calls [100].
newjimjones calls [100].
thiatanium folds.
ferhye folds.
lvstrg folds.
maxitremblay folds.
thevoice29 calls [50].
TheBoneHer checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2h, 3s, Jd ]
thevoice29 checks.
TheBoneHer checks.
strumphus checks.
newjimjones checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ac ]
thevoice29 checks.
TheBoneHer checks.
strumphus checks.
newjimjones checks.
** Dealing River ** [ 4h ]
thevoice29 checks.
TheBoneHer bets [200].
strumphus folds.
newjimjones raises [400].
thevoice29 folds.
TheBoneHer calls [200].
Eh?
I didnt think anyone would have a 5, something like A5 wouldnt have been out of the question tho.
The more I think about it, the more this is a wayyy behind or way ahead hand. EIther someone has a 5, hit two pair iwth the A, or someone has a J, or nothing.
Does a check call sound better here?
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DogOnMySide
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I don't know. I think by not repping the turn you made it a bit harder for yourself...
A4 is possible... got a straight draw and liked it?
Don't know. Perhaps a check/call is better because if you bet that river a lot of people might re-raise you simmply because they thing you're trying to steal the pot.
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Staresy
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03-31-2006, 10:48 AM
Post subject: Re: 22s. A7 River check.
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Originally Posted by vqc
I didnt think anyone would have a 5, something like A5 wouldnt have been out of the question tho.
The more I think about it, the more this is a wayyy behind or way ahead hand. EIther someone has a 5, hit two pair iwth the A, or someone has a J, or nothing.
Does a check call sound better here?
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A weak player could hold 55 here and not bet the flop for fear of a C/R with a J on board, plans to bet the turn but the scariest of cards comes out. Meh, but I think it unlikely. A5 surely bets the turn.
Think I prefer a check-call.
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Fnord
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Bet/fold is a fine river line. You forgot to fold.
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daluchy
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Originally Posted by DogOnMySide
I don't know. I think by not repping the turn you made it a bit harder for yourself...
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You have no idea what the guy has because of it and it killed you on the river when betting commenced. Atleast if you get called/raised on the turn you can start thinking about what they can have if it gets to the river.
If you aren't gonna bet the turn, you should probably check/call the river too if anything.
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1. overvaluing mid pocket pairs
2. knowing you should fold, but donkishly calling or raising anyway
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Scuba Chuck
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Bet/fold is a fine river line. You forgot to fold.
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A10Chief
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Originally Posted by Scuba Chuck
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Bet/fold is a fine river line. You forgot to fold.
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I'd like to hear the reasoning behind this. You're getting 5:1 to make this call. Do you both not feel that you are good here at least 15% of the time? Is it because the small raise is obviously not a bluff (to put it another way, it's a sucker bet)? Sorry for the stupid question, but I was in the check-call camp, and I'd just like to be clear because this is a common spot where I probably leak chips.
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