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Old 07-01-2007, 03:55 AM     Post subject: 1st hand $6.50, whats your move? #1 (permalink)  
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button (t1500)
SB (t1500)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)
Hero (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J, J.
UTG calls t20, UTG+1 calls t20, MP1 raises to t140, 2 folds, Hero raises to t560, 3 folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t540, MP1 calls t420.

Flop: (t1730) K, 9, 2 (3 players)
UTG+1 bets t940 (All-In), MP1 calls t940 (All-In), Hero ???
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Old 07-01-2007, 03:58 AM #2 (permalink)  
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With two callers in front i'd fold. Someone has AK or a better overpair.
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Old 07-01-2007, 04:04 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Without completely ruining 1st hand, I folded and MP1 had TT. Knowing that, whats your move here?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1450)
MP1 (t1360)
MP2 (t3710)
CO (t1760)
Button (t1450)
SB (t1330)
Hero (t940)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T, T.
UTG calls t30, UTG+1 calls t30, 2 folds, CO raises to t270, 2 folds, Hero???
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Old 07-01-2007, 04:05 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Fold pre-flop unless you know MP1 is a fish. Then I'd re-raise to 450-500ish.

Flop is a really easy fold.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y
 
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Hand 2: Shove.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y
 
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Old 07-01-2007, 04:09 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Hmm, fold JJ to a 3 bet [edit]not a 3-bet, just a very large bet[/edit]? Not a call even to see flop?
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Quote:
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Not a call even to see flop?
Do the math, it's not a high value call. The reason I dislike single table tournies is that it's correct to pass on marginal spots early so you can put yourself in a position to win a prize. "Wanting to see a flop" with goodish cards goes from a smallish problem in a cash game to a distaster in small tournies because you'll bust yourself out early and a 1.5x to 2x bigger stack won't increase your prize pool equity by as much.

Early on you should be looking to crush people with high value propositions, not gamble it up. Let the fish run into AK/QQ+/sets and bust or double.
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For the first hand I would have just called the 140, not reraised, and then folded on the flop
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Old 07-01-2007, 05:37 AM #9 (permalink)  
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Quote:
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For the first hand I would have just called the 140, not reraised, and then folded on the flop
Why aren't we isolating the donkey who way over-bet the pot?
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First hand I just flat call with position on the donkey and play for set or overpair value. I'm not re-raising this early. If I was in the blinds, that's a different story.

Second hand easy shove over. You want to negate your positional disadvantage and give yourself some fold equity by shoving over here.
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Ok. I was borderline on the call, but I figured a sizable raise should either leave me HU or take the pot, whereas a call would probably invite all the limpers to come along due to money in the pot.

UTG had J9o for middle pair, as mentioned MP1 has TT. This would have been Saturday night in the US, I guess the gamblers were out to play.

Second hand I shoved and he called with 77. He has a note that he overvalues pocket pairs now.
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He has a note that he overvalues pocket pairs now.
1-2 weeks from now you'll probably never see him again.
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Old 07-01-2007, 09:33 AM #13 (permalink)  
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I have notes on heaps of people I'll never see again, but one or two times I've run back into someone with a note and its either saved or made me a lot of chips.
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