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fjuanl
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10-01-2009, 02:57 AM
Post subject: $109, bvb facing the dreaded call flop raise turn line
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Villain in the hand is MookieBlaylock1 who has solid results with an abi around $60. He seemed pretty tight at this stage. Only history was when he flatted my UTG raise with AJ when I had AA. I butchered the hand when I took a bet bet check line on a Jxxxx board with 2.5x pot left on the river (hoping to crai, but it seems dumb). I've given him a walk about 8 out of 10 times.
Does he just always have it here? I realized I probably would be bet/folding a pretty high % of my range OTT and it seems like a spot where some better regs might bluff raise, especially if stacks were deeper. When should I be concerned about this...keeping in mind I am a random to basically everyone in this field?
Would you ever like villains line with anything other than nut-hands?
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 80/160 Blinds (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
CO (t4160)
Button (t2281)
Hero (SB) (t13028)
BB (t9449)
UTG (t7024)
MP (t3805)
Hero's M: 54.28
Preflop: Hero is SB with K , J
4 folds, Hero bets t500, BB calls t340
Flop: (t1000) K , 9 , Q (2 players)
Hero bets t600, BB calls t600
Turn: (t2200) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets t1280, BB raises to t3225, Hero folds
Total pot: t4760
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drmcboy
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yeah I feel like i'd c/c then bet brick rivers if he checked but it's easy to say reading the hand.
I can't speak for the mook but I would probably not have taken this line with two pair+ although I can see where it would appeal. I could see doing it with a combo draw I guess but I don't think b/f is bad at all
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revolvingiris
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I would call here and c/c river
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GatorJH
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Originally Posted by revolvingiris
I would call here and c/c river
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And what leads you to take this line?
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mcatdog
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I think he could definitely be turning something like T9o into a bluff in response to your small turn bet if he thinks you'd never bet that small with 2p+ and are owning yourself by having one pair 100% of the time when you bet that size.
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revolvingiris
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by GatorJH
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Originally Posted by revolvingiris
I would call here and c/c river
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And what leads you to take this line? |
Because all of what villain is trying to represent would raise the flop. Betting brick rivers like DR said is also good advice. I personally would just check river hoping villain would continue their bluff(since his only bet left on river is shove).
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fjuanl
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Given how coordinated the board was and with the stack sizes, I thought it was a shove or fold spot on the turn with my whole range. Seems like putting yourself in an unnecessarily tough spot. If I bet/call turn, the river is 8.6k and villain would have 5k behind
As far as the betsizing thing goes...its prob safe to say that he thinks I suck at valuebetting. The AA had I mentioned in OP was two hands before this and I used the exact flop and turn sizing...lol im bad
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revolvingiris
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Originally Posted by fjuanl
lol im bad
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But your avatar is badass  !
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