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$6+1 JJ early on maybe vs QQ KK?

  
 
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Old 09-29-2006, 09:10 PM     Post subject: $6+1 JJ early on maybe vs QQ KK? #1 (permalink)  
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Stage #509478554 Tourney ID 60724 Holdem Single Tournament No Limit $20 - 2006-09-29 17:04:25 (ET)
Table: 9307153 (Real Money) Seat #7 is the dealer
Seat 1 - STEVEBRIGGS ($1500 in chips)
Seat 2 - SUPER_MONKEY ($1500 in chips)
Seat 3 - DONKEYBOX ($1360 in chips)
Seat 4 - WPNSLOADER ($1505 in chips)
Seat 5 - MRNIELSEN ($1585 in chips)
Seat 6 - TIGERTEES ($1350 in chips)
Seat 7 - PAKUDO ($1470 in chips)
Seat 8 - FLAMENUGZ ($1480 in chips)
Seat 9 - UP2ME2WIN ($1750 in chips)
FLAMENUGZ - Posts small blind $10
UP2ME2WIN - Posts big blind $20
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to SUPER_MONKEY [Jd Js]
STEVEBRIGGS - Folds
SUPER_MONKEY - Raises $80 to $80
DONKEYBOX - Folds
WPNSLOADER - Calls $80
MRNIELSEN - Folds
TIGERTEES - Folds
PAKUDO - Folds
FLAMENUGZ - Raises $310 to $320
UP2ME2WIN - Folds
SUPER_MONKEY - Calls $240
WPNSLOADER - Folds
*** FLOP *** [As 7h 6c]
FLAMENUGZ - Bets $300
SUPER_MONKEY - All-In(Raise) $1180 to $1180

I thought his re-raise was QQ+ AK+

I figured my JJ probley isn't good anymore. So if I go ahead and say KK QQ is more likely then AA, is there any chance this re-raise pushes him off those hands at this point with the huge pot?

The only value i see in this is representing AK or AQ and hoping im up against KK or QQ.

So with that said, is there any value in this whatsoever?

Or is the flop a 100% fold?
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Old 09-29-2006, 10:20 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Side note: I cringe every time i see the characters "6+1" together.


I absoultely do not see the value in repping an A here by pushing all in at this point in a sng. My line is to fold to the raise preflop. If you call, it's a fold on the flop bet rather than the push.
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Old 09-30-2006, 12:07 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Oof. I don't even think you had odds to chase the set, much less to screw around ...

If you make this (iffy) PF call, it's set or fold.
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Old 09-30-2006, 12:10 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Old 09-30-2006, 12:31 AM #5 (permalink)  
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I think calling the re-raise pre-flop is a mistake.

The best you can hope for with the re-raise is AK, and this early in a tournament I wouldn't want to be involved.

I definitely don't think he'll fold to your all-in, in fact I'd say he's probably played looking for it. I'd expect him to turn over AA or KK here.
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Old 09-30-2006, 12:55 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by FlyingSaucy
Side note: I cringe every time i see the characters "6+1" together.
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Old 09-30-2006, 11:25 AM #7 (permalink)  
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I fold this pre flop this early to a re raise. not worth risking a lot of your stack over. Its more likely he has A-K than a big pair like K-K Q-Q and even if he does have a big PP your beat anyway.

Think about what you would reraise with this early pre flop in the SB!

As played its a definate fold on the flop.
 
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Old 09-30-2006, 07:40 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Trying to push people off monster hands early in an STT is suicidal. And I don't like your reasoning at all. Without any reads, this is a fold pf.
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