$30 + 3 MTT hand - need some comments when flopping trips

**Jimmybobbin** · 12-11-2005 03:20 PM

This is my first time posting and my first $30 tournament, i played really tight to get the amount of chips i had and i seemed to being doing alright until this hand came up which basically put me out of the game..

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button (t2595)
SB (t865)
Hero (t1413)
UTG (t1267)
UTG+1 (t845)
UTG+2 (t1755)
MP1 (t1260)
MP2 (t1665)
MP3 (t1365)
CO (t940)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K

, Q

.
UTG calls t30, 2 folds, MP1 calls t30, 4 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t120) Q

, Q

, 2

(4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets t70, MP1 raises to t140, SB calls t140, Hero calls t140, UTG folds.

Turn: (t610) 3

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 bets t210, SB calls t210, Hero calls t210.

River: (t1240) 7

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t450, MP1 raises 880, Hero calls t430, SB calls 485.

Final Pot: t2120

Results in white below:
SB has Qh Th (three of a kind, queens).
Hero has Kh Qc (three of a kind, queens).
MP1 has 7d 7c (full house, sevens full of queens).
Outcome: MP1 wins t2120.

**a500lbgorilla** · 12-11-2005 03:26 PM

So mr. slowplay met mr. outdraw?

raise the turn?

Obviously you're commited on the river.

**Jimmybobbin** · 12-11-2005 03:33 PM

Alright, that seems to be my mistake, i guess a large bet at the turn would have scared him off, i thought he might have been on ace queen

**Sed** · 12-11-2005 03:34 PM

You gotta raise somewhere... as last to act I bump the turn up to ~700 since the pot is a nice size. You will either take it down there or get more action from any other Q. If someone flopped a boat, you are gonna lose your stack. Your big hands have to avoid bigger hands and outdraws to win an MTT.

- sed

**chardrian** · 12-11-2005 05:34 PM

You coulda/shoulda just dropped the hammer on the flop. UTG tried to steal a pot, MP1 then minraises signifying that he at least thinks he's ahead here. SB then calls so you have at least two others in the hand who think they have the goods. Raise that flop and you probably get all your money in either there or on the the turn.

**zenbitz** · 12-11-2005 07:05 PM

Note that you want Mr 77 calling there on the turn just make sure he's not getting odds. hit a 2-outer? nh, gg.

**K2 the ArmA** · 12-11-2005 07:54 PM

that's a crappy beat, you're obviously ahead on the flop, personally I play it much more aggressively. Raise 300-400 on the flop and check-raise AI the turn if only 1 is left, if both players are left infront of you, i just push the turn immediatley. I know 99% of the time i'm ahead here, that's a near perfect flop for you, i pay off 22 here and laugh aloud at AQ.

12-11-2005 03:20 PM #1
Jimmybobbin View Profile View Forum Posts Join Date Dec 2005 Posts 5	$30 + 3 MTT hand - need some comments when flopping trips This is my first time posting and my first $30 tournament, i played really tight to get the amount of chips i had and i seemed to being doing alright until this hand came up which basically put me out of the game.. Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Button (t2595) SB (t865) Hero (t1413) UTG (t1267) UTG+1 (t845) UTG+2 (t1755) MP1 (t1260) MP2 (t1665) MP3 (t1365) CO (t940) Preflop: Hero is BB with K, Q. UTG calls t30, 2 folds, MP1 calls t30, 4 folds, SB completes, Hero checks. Flop: (t120) Q, Q, 2 (4 players) SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets t70, MP1 raises to t140, SB calls t140, Hero calls t140, UTG folds. Turn: (t610) 3 (3 players) SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 bets t210, SB calls t210, Hero calls t210. River: (t1240) 7 (3 players) SB checks, Hero bets t450, MP1 raises 880, Hero calls t430, SB calls 485. Final Pot: t2120 Results in white below: SB has Qh Th (three of a kind, queens). Hero has Kh Qc (three of a kind, queens). MP1 has 7d 7c (full house, sevens full of queens). Outcome: MP1 wins t2120.

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12-11-2005 03:26 PM #2
a500lbgorilla View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD Join Date Sep 2004 Posts 23,228 Location This room is a good place to be	So mr. slowplay met mr. outdraw? raise the turn? Obviously you're commited on the river.

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12-11-2005 03:33 PM #3
Jimmybobbin View Profile View Forum Posts Join Date Dec 2005 Posts 5	Alright, that seems to be my mistake, i guess a large bet at the turn would have scared him off, i thought he might have been on ace queen

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12-11-2005 03:34 PM #4
Sed View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Sep 2004 Posts 1,014 Location Wastin' away again in margaritaville....	You gotta raise somewhere... as last to act I bump the turn up to ~700 since the pot is a nice size. You will either take it down there or get more action from any other Q. If someone flopped a boat, you are gonna lose your stack. Your big hands have to avoid bigger hands and outdraws to win an MTT. - sed
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12-11-2005 05:34 PM #5
chardrian View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message I rarely,if ever, get pms Join Date Apr 2005 Posts 5,332	You coulda/shoulda just dropped the hammer on the flop. UTG tried to steal a pot, MP1 then minraises signifying that he at least thinks he's ahead here. SB then calls so you have at least two others in the hand who think they have the goods. Raise that flop and you probably get all your money in either there or on the the turn.
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12-11-2005 07:05 PM #6
zenbitz View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2004 Posts 2,859	Note that you want Mr 77 calling there on the turn just make sure he's not getting odds. hit a 2-outer? nh, gg.

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12-11-2005 07:54 PM #7
K2 the ArmA View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2005 Posts 652	that's a crappy beat, you're obviously ahead on the flop, personally I play it much more aggressively. Raise 300-400 on the flop and check-raise AI the turn if only 1 is left, if both players are left infront of you, i just push the turn immediatley. I know 99% of the time i'm ahead here, that's a near perfect flop for you, i pay off 22 here and laugh aloud at AQ.

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